schroedinger Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Hi If using PVA glue, how much pva needs to be dissolived for rolling tubes? 10% by weight god? Also can it be used for pasting shells? PVA = poly vinyl alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Are you sure you want to use Polyvinyl alcohol as an adhesive? When you see talk of people using PVA as a glue or adhesive it is Polyvinyl Acetate, not Polyvinyl Alcohol. Polyvinyl Alcohol is sometimes added to Polyvinyl acetate glues as an additive or modifier, but it's not the primary adhesive. I could be mistake, but I don't believe the alcohol on it's own will be a particularly effective adhesive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroedinger Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Yes I'm talking about the alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exo Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Looks like It can be used as a paper glue see this link: http://www.cool.conservation-us.org/byauth/woods/pva.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exo Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 As Mumbles stated the better PVA glue is mixture of both Polyvinyl alcohol (PVOH) and Polyvinyl acetate (PVAc), with boric acid to help with setting,, increased bond strength, etc. and Thiocyanates to increase shelf life of the glue. Maybe you could add some boric acid to improve your PVOH glue. For more detailed info on PVA glue ingrediants & compositions you can see it at the following link : http://www.google.com/patents/US3213051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurritoBandito Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) I'm assuming you either mean white glue or wood glue. I use woodglue thinned with an equal amount of water if that helps. Edit: If you do mean polyvinyl alcohol, according the link provided by Exo above, 20% is the recommended concentration. Edited June 27, 2014 by BurritoBandito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroedinger Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Burrito i meant PVA not white glue. White glue is typicall a disperaion of PVAc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroedinger Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 HiI did a couple test. 20% is way to thick for tubes, but propably is suited for use as paste for canistes shells maybe also for pasting ball shells. A 10% version makes rock hard tubes, much harder then the commercial tubes i got. But a 6 % version works a little better as you can just paste in the paper a little thicker and don't get an problems with evaporation (prob. nit needed during winter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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