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I've seen some...let's say "tutorials" about HNO3 vacuum distillation.The best one i think is the one from UncleFester's book.

Now...i can't really find anything complete about the vacuum apparatus.I've seen how to "install" the glassware and i understand that but i couldn't find anything about the vacuum source and water source.How to install them?Can someone give me a "picture" or something please?UncleFester(it's just a nickname) said in his book that his method will give very concentrated HNO3.Since that book is about explosive and he is not stupid the acid should be pretty pure and good for anything else,not just explosives

Is it safe to keep fuming nitric acid inside flass bottles with glass stoppers?Should i add water until it's not fuming anymore then keep it there?

Are fuming acids safe to handle without a gas mask?

And one more question about ETN.I found this:

1.Prepare a 100ml solution of 95% H2SO4, place in a freezer until cooled to 0 C, next prepare an ice bath and add the now cooled H2SO4 into the ice bath.
2.Next 60 grams of finely powdered ammonium nitrate are added to this solution while stirring until it has dissolved while keeping it below 15 C this is left to chill in the ice bath until >10 C.
3.To this solution add Erythritol in ½ gram amounts while stirring and keeping the temperature below 15 C, the solution will thicken quickly.
4.This solution is added to a refrigerator for 1 hour stirring every 5 minutes or so.
5.Add this solution to 2L of ice cold water, you should instantly notice a very fine precipitate form and float to the bottom.
6.This is then filtered and the filtrate is washed in a 1L 5% bicarbonate solution and filtered again, if the substance is still acidic repeat this step until neutral, this is then allowed to dry.
7.This step is optional this product may be purified by completely dissolving and recrystallizing in ethanol.

Now...i've never seen something like this before.I mean...step 3.I can't understand it.How much Erythritol is needed?

One more thing: Can the cooling water be replaced with ice around the condenser?

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This is not the place for HE discussion.
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Unless you want another dead OsamabinLaden, I wouldn't recommend learning how to make HNO3 and ETN from information found on the internet.

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You need to get access to the HE forum or go to a HE based forum. This post with synthesis probably won't be tolerated. Especially in the pyrotechnics section.
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Sorry guy from the questions you ask, it is clearly visible that you don't have any idea about what you are talking. PLS DELETE THREAD
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I think this person should have a full ban of the forum and have his account deleted. There is no need to have a display name like that and then talk about high explosives on a pyrotechnics forum. Stay safe all,

 

Ollie

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His particular name should have no bearing on his access to the forum. He just needs to follow the rules. And from his show of knowledge he needs to just forget about dangerous and energetic chemicals. At least not until he gains a lot more knowledge.

 

Heck, I think Barack Hussein is a domestic terrorist too. But politics have no business on the forum as well.

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His particular name should have no bearing on his access to the forum. He just needs to follow the rules. And from his show of knowledge he needs to just forget about dangerous and energetic chemicals. At least not until he gains a lot more knowledge.

 

Heck, I think Barack Hussein is a domestic terrorist too. But politics have no business on the forum as well.

"Can't get a job because no experience,can't get experience because no job".Sounds familiar?Seriously...

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That is fair, but you don't get knowledge of HE from mixing things together in your garage. You get it from reading. Many, Many hours of reading. Your questions show a fundamental lack of knowledge.

 

I have posted this a few times, so I will again. This person was able to tell this. Many can't.

 

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=22554

 

I could have jumped on the wagon to ban you...

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That is fair, but you don't get knowledge of HE from mixing things together in your garage. You get it from reading. Many, Many hours of reading. Your questions show a fundamental lack of knowledge.

 

I have posted this a few times, so I will again. This person was able to tell this. Many can't.

 

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=22554

 

I could have jumped on the wagon to ban you...

 

Yes...i was that and many others.I don't get it.Why not use 2 glass beakers?One with the explosive and one...just in case.Maybe filled with a non-inflamable liquid.

I tried to make an account on that site,but i can't get my password.Do you know what should i do?I don't receive it on the email.

 

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I think this person should have a full ban of the forum and have his account deleted. There is no need to have a display name like that and then talk about high explosives on a pyrotechnics forum. Stay safe all,

 

Ollie

The name is a joke...If you didn't see,it's Obama,not Osama.A classmate said it like that by mistake and i found it actually funny.

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Discussion of HE outside the HE forum is prohibited, as the rules clearly state.

 

And this has nothing to do with pyrotechnics.

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