dangerousamateur Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 If you look at the spanish pdf and also at the rubber rainbow article from skylighter, you will find white/silver formulas that have chlorine donors in them.OK, some are parlon bound, but the spanish blanco brilliante is dextrine bound. What's the chlorine for? Why not use some cheaper fuel without chlorine? Or is the chlorine needed to shift the potassium ect. spectra into the visible range, something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzoMittle Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 It would help me understand if you could please provide a link or copy the formulas to here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousamateur Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Sure:http://de.scribd.com/doc/70688538/Formulas-Color-y-Tecnica-Empav-1Look for blanco brilliante. And here look for Gary Smiths silver star:http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how-to-make/colored-screen-sliced-rubber-stars.asp Edited March 1, 2014 by dangerousamateur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niladmirari Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) I think parlon need because he participates in the reaction burning. Helps burning. MgAl + (C4H6Cl2)n = MgCl2 + AlCl3 + ... + heat (energy, luminosity) The reaction generates heat that goes into maintaining the burning. And more white light, more luminosity. Edited March 1, 2014 by Niladmirari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousamateur Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Ok, but how about Al2O3 and MgO, cant they do the job as good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I think parlon need because he participates in the reaction burning. Helps burning. MgAl + (C4H6Cl2)n = MgCl2 + AlCl3 + ... + heat (energy, luminosity) The reaction generates heat that goes into maintaining the burning. And more white light, more luminosity. Wow, you're really just bad at science. Might I suggest you stop spouting off incorrect bullshit. Magnesium Chloride and Aluminum Chloride are not white body emitter, and generally don't produce much white light. This is why most metal fueled colored stars have more chlorine donor in them to intentionally produce these species. MgO and Al2O3 produce copious amounts of white light, and you want to avoid them as much as possible. As far as why white stars have chlorine donors in them, no clue. There is the binder situation, but more than likely it's in there to be consistent with other formulas in the set than for any practical reason. It may also just temper the intensity of the white light to make it compatible with other stars. By the way, here's the spanish pdf without the need to pay for anything or go through any sketchy sources: http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/6544-formulas-priming-and-technical-pyrotechnics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niladmirari Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 It was just a guess. Reaction of magnesium and teflon = MgF2 + white light: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeqXld34zzQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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