Sparx88 Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) I'm about to go on an order spree to get stuff for stars and shells. I want primarily blue and red stars so I want to switch out of BP based stars and go knoI4, black copper oxide, stron nitrate. But I see that I need a chlorine donor to intensify the color. So, would it be Parlon, PVC, or can dried bleach (sodium hypochlorite powder) work? I would think Parlon would be best due to the binder effects and no need for dextrin anymore(use of acetone). Edited January 19, 2014 by Sparx88
Carbon796 Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Bleach is not going to work ! You should pick out a few formulas that you are interested in trying, and then purchase the appropriate chemicals for them. That being said, Parlon is probably the most commonly called for chlorine donor.
schroedinger Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Dried bleach won`t work for several reasons.1. There is no sodium hypochlorite powder. It turn into sodium chlorate and chloride2. As sodium is present, you get yellow color3. Normal bleach contains just 3% hypochlorite, so it would be quite interesting So go for Parlon or PVC (better Parlon)
LambentPyro Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Dried bleach won`t work for several reasons.1. There is no sodium hypochlorite powder. It turn into sodium chlorate and chloride2. As sodium is present, you get yellow color3. Normal bleach contains just 3% hypochlorite, so it would be quite interesting So go for Parlon or PVC (better Parlon)Say, even if you can get hypochlorite powder, you'd be paying an arm and a leg to get a pound of it, rather than Parlon which is only the cost of a bottle of bleach.
Sparx88 Posted January 20, 2014 Author Posted January 20, 2014 lol Yep another one solved. I know, "bleach" lol, had to ask Thought it might be viable. Ok then, Parlon it is. Preciate the help yall.
psyco_1322 Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Just order the parlon. You can still use dextrin. Dextrin bound stars are going to be better looking than parlon since the parlon leaves an ashy tail. Another thing to note is that parlon bound stars tend to burn up significantly faster than dextrin bound ones.
WonderBoy Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Another option to look into is Saran. What did you have in mind for the "dried bleach (sodium hypochlorite powder)"? Generally, sodium is avoided in most colours. WB
asdercks Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Say, even if you can get hypochlorite powder, you'd be paying an arm and a leg to get a pound of it, rather than Parlon which is only the cost of a bottle of bleach.parlon for the price of a bottle of beach!!!!!!!!!!!! where? because I'm paying 9 dlls per pound of parlon lol.
schroedinger Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Well sounds ok to me. Specially if you think of the fact that you will need a max of 10% for most formulas, which means 1 pound is enough to make 5 kg of stars.And 5 kg of stars should make a lot of shells, i would assume that they make around 20-40 3" shells. Which is quite a lot.
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