asdercks Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Hi guys, does any one knows what's the difference between these two kinds of dark aluminums from eckart?
Maserface Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 6413 is "slightly more processed" I think the idea is that its a smaller particle size, but whats the point?
asdercks Posted January 6, 2014 Author Posted January 6, 2014 6413 is "slightly more processed" I think the idea is that its a smaller particle size, but whats the point?ah, ok.just asking because I saw the eckart 6413 for sale in pyrochemsource and I just wanted to know if it was better than the 5413
LambentPyro Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 ah, ok.just asking because I saw the eckart 6413 for sale in pyrochemsource and I just wanted to know if it was better than the 5413I saw the same thing. It's a dollar more, if you have some leftover 5413, try doing a comparison to see which is better, I'd be interested to know.
asdercks Posted January 6, 2014 Author Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) I saw the same thing. It's a dollar more, if you have some leftover 5413, try doing a comparison to see which is better, I'd be interested to know. judging from the data both aluminums are almost identical. Edited January 6, 2014 by asdercks
LambentPyro Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Screenshot_2014-01-06-12-52-59.jpg judging from the data both aluminums are almost identical.It basically has less metal content? Why would we be charged for something with more impurity?
asdercks Posted January 6, 2014 Author Posted January 6, 2014 It basically has less metal content? Why would we be charged for something with more impurity?exactly! I know it has been milled for a longer period of time, maybe that's the reason why it has a higher bulk density but I don't think that'll change much in performance as both aluminums have the same burning speed
LambentPyro Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 exactly! I know it has been milled for a longer period of time, maybe that's the reason why it has a higher bulk density but I don't think that'll change much in performance as both aluminums have the same burning speedSave yourself the extra dollar and get the usual stuff.
psyco_1322 Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Save money and get IBA. It's much finer than 5413, and a bit more snappy. It's cheaper by the drum and should also be cheaper than 5413 from a decently priced source.
LambentPyro Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Save money and get IBA. It's much finer than 5413, and a bit more snappy. It's cheaper by the drum and should also be cheaper than 5413 from a decently priced source.PCS doesn't sell IBA though, nor does HCS, only German Eckart. Who supplies IBA?
ddewees Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 http://www.rollingthunderpyro.com/Products-PYROTECHNIC_ALUMINUM.html
asdercks Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 I have both eckart 5413 and indian and honestly I kinda like the indian a bit more.
Carbon796 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Pastime pyro http://pastimepyrochemicals.com/our-products.php?ViewItems=fuel 1
asdercks Posted January 8, 2014 Author Posted January 8, 2014 Pastime pyro http://pastimepyrochemicals.com/our-products.php?ViewItems=fuelfirst and last time I ordered from pastime,they sent the wrong product, I had ordered -200 mesh magnalium and they sent a 60 mesh and even the label had the wrong mesh written on it so the whole thing was wrong. not sure if would order from them again, although I must say the their aluminum prices aren't that bad
psyco_1322 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 first and last time I ordered from pastime,they sent the wrong product, I had ordered -200 mesh magnalium and they sent a 60 mesh and even the label had the wrong mesh written on it so the whole thing was wrong. not sure if would order from them again, although I must say the their aluminum prices aren't that bad Did you contact them about it? I personally know the guy that runs Pastime, and I would not believe he did it intentionally. I have ordered quite a bit from him over the years and he has always given me good deals. I have not ordered from HCS or PCS so I can't say much about them.
asdercks Posted January 8, 2014 Author Posted January 8, 2014 Did you contact them about it? I personally know the guy that runs Pastime, and I would not believe he did it intentionally. I have ordered quite a bit from him over the years and he has always given me good deals. I have not ordered from HCS or PCS so I can't say much about them.You know what, I was so mad at that time that I did not contact them,oh crap! know I feel bad. I'm glad to hear good feedback from someone whom has actually bought from them,maybe I'll give their indian a try, thanks.
ddewees Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I've heard nothing but good things about them too... I just always forget about them when it comes time to order. 1
psyco_1322 Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 You know what, I was so mad at that time that I did not contact them,oh crap! know I feel bad. I'm glad to hear good feedback from someone whom has actually bought from them,maybe I'll give their indian a try, thanks. No problem. He usually vends at the PGI Convention also. Me and Wonderboy picked up enough stuff from him a few years ago to make a house and car payment! The IBA is good, I can vouch for it!
asdercks Posted January 11, 2014 Author Posted January 11, 2014 No problem. He usually vends at the PGI Convention also. Me and Wonderboy picked up enough stuff from him a few years ago to make a house and car payment! The IBA is good, I can vouch for it!thanks for the tip, I'll give their IBA a shot
rogeryermaw Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) oops Edited January 7, 2015 by rogeryermaw
dagabu Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Um guys? I think Jeff has closed down pastimepyro... He had some trouble with the law this past summer.
Maserface Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 I heard he was still trying to ship orders though, but I would be a bit skeptical at this point.
dagabu Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 The site is down and there are whispers of a plea being worked out, I think he is going to be out of the game for a while.
Shadowcat1969 Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 HCS currently lists IBA: http://www.hobbychemicalsupply.com/servlet/the-5/fast-dark-flake-aluminum/Detail From what I've seen with HCS it seems that if they don't have a product they remove it from the site rather than just listing it as "out of stock". I've gone there looking for something and not found it, then a couple months later ordered that item from them.
dagabu Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 HCS currently lists IBA: http://www.hobbychemicalsupply.com/servlet/the-5/fast-dark-flake-aluminum/Detail From what I've seen with HCS it seems that if they don't have a product they remove it from the site rather than just listing it as "out of stock". I've gone there looking for something and not found it, then a couple months later ordered that item from them. Good find! I didn't mine all the way back to the main site, my mistake.
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