Home Lab

[jaysgoh]

Did you guys have a home lab ?

I like to collect chemicals

Quick Questions ,

 

1) Somebody told me before that he like the smell of sulfur and the smoke produced by bp , isn't it harmful and toxic ? Sulfur Dioxide and Trioxide are extremely harmful right ? I tried burn the sulfur and i got a bad cough and sneezing , i can feel that my nose cells are burning ( The First Time I try , I Do wear safety gear - Gas Mask , Eye Protections and Glove and of course it is outside my house ). Is my statement correct that bp smoke is really bad ?

 

2) I purchased Drain Opener - 98% Sulfuric Acid .I use some only for my stuck toilet bowl and it still cant melt my bath soap dispenser (plastic ) in my toilet bowl , so it left around 2 litre (ALOT) It is in a Plastic Bottle , woudn't a strong acid 'eat' plastic ? how long can i keep ? This acid seems like more dangerous than BP for me , i dont want my tiles and my house got melt down or burn

I was thinking to get a proper lab bottle , but i not sure are they really for keeping the acid , for chemist or who ever knows about this , how to transfer the acid to another lab bottle ? and what bottle should i get ( photo if can ) ? i can get transparent Duran with plastic blue cap , will it become boiling acid after i pour into Duran Lab Bottle ? Boiling acid sounds really dangerous while you cant do anything when the reactions ...

 

3) That day i bought a no brand liquid it labeled as Mosaic Floor Cleaner - Harmful . When i pour it out it directly smoking ! the smoke really choke , lucky i have all my safety gear and mask on it slighty yellowish liquid , its watery , not water gel type like H2SO4 Conc . Any idea what acid is that ? I hate that my local product they never labeled any freaking ingredient on their bottle .

 

All actions are doing outdoor , i did not do light , burn any compositions IN MY HOUSE , i do it outside everytime right now.

Thanks

[Mumbles]

You have an enormous amount of reading to do. Since you've already proved you haven't done enough research or really have the appropriate knowledge to do pyro safely, do you really think messing with more volatile and dangerous chemicals is a good idea?

 

1. No, BP smoke is not that bad for you. It's not good for you like any smoke, but the amount of SO2 and SO3 is minimal. You can figure out where the sulfur goes on your own.

 

2. No, sulfuric acid will not violently attack plastics. Over time (many months to years), it can brittle and damage them, but will not eat through them like you're describing. Well, that depends on the plastics, but not polyethylene. Acids are definitely more dangerous and more likely to cause injury than BP, mostly because they can attack via vapor or liquid phase, and because an imminent injury is not immediately obvious. Every pyro typically has 1 or 2 pyro scares or usually minor burns from being a little reckless with BP. Chemists will get hundreds or thousands of little burns over their career.

 

3. You bought a chemical which you have no idea what it is? It's hydrochloric probably.

[marks265]

I used to live close to a pharmaceutical company. What they made or did I never did know. One day the fire department and rescue showed up. If IIRC they had an acid spill in a sink or basin for their process. They added water to acid which is very bad because the sink blew up from the reaction. I never did get the details on that. I've been around 100's of gallons of sulfuric and it was always a bit unnerving especially with water near by.

[taiwanluthiers]

If a sulfuric acid drain cleaner came in a plastic bottle, wouldn't the manufacture know enough to use the right kind of plastic to package their products? Nobody wants acid spills during the supply chain process! I have bought sulfuric acid in plastic bottles before, and the chemical store guy said that only certain plastic (probably PE) can be used to contain sulfuric acid. Now I never really did anything to it because I want to be very sure that it is safe before I open and use them, and so far I haven't really found any reason to use them... so it sat there unused.

 

Acids have no real use in pyro and those things are far more dangerous than any pyro chemicals. Sulfuric acid will burn you very badly on contact, and acids like Hydroflouric acid is worse (it can kill you if you get enough of it on your skin). Leave them alone until you are familiar with safe handling of acids.

[jaysgoh]

You have an enormous amount of reading to do. Since you've already proved you haven't done enough research or really have the appropriate knowledge to do pyro safely, do you really think messing with more volatile and dangerous chemicals is a good idea?

 

1. No, BP smoke is not that bad for you. It's not good for you like any smoke, but the amount of SO2 and SO3 is minimal. You can figure out where the sulfur goes on your own.

 

2. No, sulfuric acid will not violently attack plastics. Over time (many months to years), it can brittle and damage them, but will not eat through them like you're describing. Well, that depends on the plastics, but not polyethylene. Acids are definitely more dangerous and more likely to cause injury than BP, mostly because they can attack via vapor or liquid phase, and because an imminent injury is not immediately obvious. Every pyro typically has 1 or 2 pyro scares or usually minor burns from being a little reckless with BP. Chemists will get hundreds or thousands of little burns over their career.

 

3. You bought a chemical which you have no idea what it is? It's hydrochloric probably.

 

3) In here , local hardware shop , you told them you want to wash your tiles they will give you a bottle of liquid with no label , it just label floor cleaner , so as a buyer we dont know what is that , the hardware shop owner also got no idea what in it .

 

thanks for reply

[jaysgoh]

If a sulfuric acid drain cleaner came in a plastic bottle, wouldn't the manufacture know enough to use the right kind of plastic to package their products? Nobody wants acid spills during the supply chain process! I have bought sulfuric acid in plastic bottles before, and the chemical store guy said that only certain plastic (probably PE) can be used to contain sulfuric acid. Now I never really did anything to it because I want to be very sure that it is safe before I open and use them, and so far I haven't really found any reason to use them... so it sat there unused.

 

Acids have no real use in pyro and those things are far more dangerous than any pyro chemicals. Sulfuric acid will burn you very badly on contact, and acids like Hydroflouric acid is worse (it can kill you if you get enough of it on your skin). Leave them alone until you are familiar with safe handling of acids.

 

That day my toilet bowl stuck with a plastic thingy , someone told me to use sulfuric acid , i went to ace hardware to get 1 gallon and it does not work for me as i thought it will melt down the plastic after i add some water to start the reactions , i thought boiling acid will melt the plastic , after awhile , i called my chemistry teacher and told her my situations , she ask me flush down alot of baking powder , she said it will damage my drain pipes , so i did what she ask , the plastic still stuck at there . And theres my leftover H2SO4 .

[taiwanluthiers]

I don't know what plastic thingie you got stuck inside, but acids or bases will NOT dissolve them. Sodium hydroxide based drain cleaners (or sulfuric acid based ones) are great for organic stuff that blocks your pipe, but if you got saran wrap, plastic gloves, etc. NOTHING will work. You will need to call a plumber and manually remove it.

 

If the plastic is polystyrene then acetone will eat through it, but if it's PE then nothing works. I seriously doubt you want to flush acetone down a toilet, not to mention the concentration would not be enough (you'd have to fill your toilet tank with acetone and you're likely to blow your house up from all the vapor). My advise would be to call a plumber.