oskarchem Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 Ok, look, drinking and driving... I, personnally don't know the leagal alcohol limit level in your blood stream to be *drunk*. But I don't think it is 0.01...So tweety bird, you saying that you shoulden't drink and drive, come on, have you never drived after having had a few beers? Any way, this is not the subject here. But I think that Drinking reasonably, and within leagal limits, and then driving, is not *Such* a big deal.
JCrewPyros Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 Depends on the "long" part... It takes a lot longer than you think before your blood/alcohol drops... I had to take a class... You can get trashed one night and still be illegal to drive into the afternoon hours of the next day... So if that "long" was more than 2 hours an on it might have dropped alittle... less than that I doubt it dropped any... Wouldn't surprise me if it increased...
asilentbob Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 Drinking under the influence is really putting a car with tons of kinetic energy under your control... I don't care if you had 1 beer... don't fucking drive and make it more dangerous for the rest of us.
Gunzway Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 And no, I have never driven under the influence of any amount of alchohol.Where have you been living.As long as your not drunk and you can concentrate on the road I think you should be able to drive. It's really the people which have difficulty with driving and tend to break laws without alcohol which causes accidents.A person which cannot drive too well with alcohol = dangerous.I am a heavy drinker to be honest. But driving with 3 or 4 beers is not a problem for me. Don't be stupid. Keep under the speed limit. If you don't think you should be driving gtfo of the car. When you know you are going to get drunk hide your car keys! Give them to a friend to hide or something. That's what I do and I have NEVER been caught drinking and driving. Not that I break that law everyday but whenever I go over to a mates place just make sure you don't drink too much. If you do. Well your either spending the night or getting a cab.
Mumbles Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Even with a 2 hour drive home, he still would not have been over the legal limit to drive at the start of the voyage. You lose approximatly .02BAC per hour. Not that I am saying it was ok, just putting the facts out there. I also am not a fan of driving after I have been drinking in any quantity. Even though I am 21+, it still doesn't appeal to me. Thats not to say I am unwilling to make a 5 minute drive from a friends' house after a beer or two, but I am going to be having more than that I make alterative arrangements.
WarezWally Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Here you will get totally fucked over for drink driving, the crackdown started about 5 years ago after a large string of deaths and I don't see it stopping anytime soon (which doesn't bother me in the slightest) There is no excuse for driving while over the limit, It shouldn't matter if its a 5 minute or 6 hour trip its dangerous.
0nE.sh0t.kIll Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 In my area, they crack down on all things related to alcohol. There are tons of DUI's in the crime report section of the paper and they always talking about underage drinking.
Swede Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 The real BS part of this is that it has been PROVEN that fatigue mimics alcohol in almost every way. Commercial drivers have limits, but no one else does. How many people have crashed due to fatigue? A LOT. Yet they focus on alcohol and ignore fatigue, I'm supposing because they cannot test for it. But to hammer people when they are under the legal limit, that I do not understand. If the limit is 0.08, and I'm at 0.05, it may not be the smartest thing, but I'm still under the limit, and I should walk. That's why there's a cutoff, correct? You go to dinner with your spose, and have two glasses of wine with your meal. Are you now a road hazard? Ridiculous, unless you weigh 60 pounds and your wine glasses are a pint. I'm frankly sick of Big Brother poking his nose into my business in so many ways. It's beyond irritating.
justanotherpyro Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Yet they focus on alcohol and ignore fatigue, I'm supposing because they cannot test for it.Bingo. Fatigue can be measured to an extent, but not any way to convict someone of a crime. There are plenty of things that affect concentration. There is a reason why they say not to go out and drive after fighting with someone because you are a major road hazard. It all boils down to responsibility. Personally after one sip of beer, thats where I'm staying the night or if its in a bar, a DD is driving me home. I don't even play with "I'm ok to drive because I've only had one." I know that I would be fine to drive but its just a line I don't cross. If you are to irresponsible to avoid going beyond your limit than I think you are an idiot. If you know your limit and don't go beyond it then no problem. The one catch is that there are way to many irresponsible people and there always will be.
ST1DinOH Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Depends on the "long" part... It takes a lot longer than you think before your blood/alcohol drops... I had to take a class... You can get trashed one night and still be illegal to drive into the afternoon hours of the next day... So if that "long" was more than 2 hours an on it might have dropped alittle... less than that I doubt it dropped any... Wouldn't surprise me if it increased...long was an hour the normal human's liver can process alcohol at about .02 per hour. so if i drink a beer/shot/glass or wine right now...one hour from now i should be 0.00000 1 beer/shot/glass of wine averages outto be about .02 4 beers = .08 + the 2 hours i sat and chilled before i left = .04 + the hour drive = .02 + the fact that i'm bigger than the average bear = .019 the issue wasn't my BAH level...it's that i had one at all. not supposed to be drinking at all under the age of 21 so i was booked on underage consumption. the legal limit is .08 at the moment i set my 4th beer down that's about where i was at. the legal limit for anyone under the age of 18 is .02 i was even under that, and i still got royaly screwed. the way i see it is the legal limit is far too low, and the age is far to high. i say 18yrs old and at least a .1 most anyone can safely operate a motor vehicle at that level. at that low a level the motor responces are not effected and there's no danger to the public. beyond that it differs per person. as big as i am i can usually drink a 12 pack and drive like a champ. the limits are set low to screw people. period. it's all about extortion. maybe my views are a tad biased due to the incredible screw job i recieved by the maumee police and the state of ohio because i drank a few beers...but i think as long as someone is drinking responsibly and not endangering themselfs or others there should be a cause for ruining thier lives financialy and criminaly. i now have that on my record and the state/city has a large portion of my time and money because i acted responsibly and told the truth. that just doesn't add up to me. yes i broke the law, but when the consequences of the action are more harmfull than the action itself there is definatley need for review of the law.
Picric acid DOES taste bitter! Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 When it comes to lawproblems i have been very fortunate as they have been nonexistent. Mainly due to the fact that there's two officers on duty in my small comunity, one of whom is working part-time and one that's doing paperwork. We dont really have any problems with crime either, as we tend to solve whatever problems we have ourselves. Either way, the only pain in the but i have is from my relatives that doesent exactly share my views on chemistry and pyro. So...Happy times!
XinE895 Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 ST1DinOH, its really simple, don't drink and drive and you wont have a problem. It doesn't matter what the law is, if the cop was a dick or if you were 2 feet from your driveway. You were driving on the road and you chose to drink when you knew you had to drive. In my opinion you deserve the punishment you got. If you think the punishment was unfair let me ask you this... are you going to drink and drive again? Next time your punishment might be hurting someone else and or yourself. "i say 18yrs old and at least a .1 most anyone can safely operate a motor vehicle" Most anyone? How about the people that cant? Here is some data for you to look at.
Arthur Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Certainly here in the UK, ANY recordable offence will be bad marks if you apply for licences to possess explosives inc fireworks. People with the COER approval in the UK tend to be very cautious when driving as even an automated speeding ticket will go against your renewal.
ST1DinOH Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 ST1DinOH, its really simple, don't drink and drive and you wont have a problem. It doesn't matter what the law is, if the cop was a dick or if you were 2 feet from your driveway. You were driving on the road and you chose to drink when you knew you had to drive. In my opinion you deserve the punishment you got. If you think the punishment was unfair let me ask you this... are you going to drink and drive again? Next time your punishment might be hurting someone else and or yourself. "i say 18yrs old and at least a .1 most anyone can safely operate a motor vehicle" Most anyone? How about the people that cant? Here is some data for you to look at. you must not have read my post. it's not that i was drinking and driving...i was WAY under the legal limt to operate a motor vehicle... it was an underage consumption issue at the age of 20. i was legal to drink before i went to court. thats what i'm bitching about. i have zero tollerance for people getting hammered and driving, thats not the issue here. it's the legal age limit to consume alcohol being 21 that bugs me. thats what nailed me. i'm a 20 year old guy, working 45+ hr a week and drinking responsibly well under any sort of limit to drive. i still got roaly screwed. yes...it is the law that you cannot drink under the age of 21 yes, i broke that law surely i deserved some sort of punnishment, but it was way over the top. what they did to me was just uncalled for. i had a spotless record at the time and i was making good money. they stole thousands of dollars from me, made it nearly impossible for me to keep a job (took away my ability to drive) basicly ruined my life because i drank a couple beers a month before some douchebag decides i'm chronologicly prepared to. sorry, but i do think the consequences should fit thecrime commited. silly things like manditory minimums and judges with personal biases/conflicts of intrest should be taken out of the whole process. BTW...the judge who totaly fucked me over for drinking 4 beers at 20 years old...his granddaughter had been killed by a drunk driver. not sure about you but from where i sit he shouldn't be deciding the life of someone who he has such personal biases on. he shouldbe excused from cases like this for this exact reason. i didn't kill his grand daughter, i wasn't even drunk. i was a good kid who paid my taxes and worked for a living from a good upbringing. i didn't deserve the severity of the punnishment. not sure how you can argue with that...i mean shit man you think what i just described to you is fair? you don't think i got screwed...not even a little? lol
0nE.sh0t.kIll Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 I had court yesterday, I got the same thing as my friend. 90 day court supervision and a $150 fine. I learned my lesson.
dagabu Posted July 29, 2010 Posted July 29, 2010 Nope, never happened. Firefox and Skylighter have not had any cases come from their CSPC run inns. Someone is feeding you BS. I will ask Harry and Doc. John in 10 days face to face to site a case at PGI. I'm telling you, never happened.
Mumbles Posted July 29, 2010 Posted July 29, 2010 Why are you bringing up posts almost 2 years old? Don't try to stir up more arguments or a fight.
Mumbles Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Well, I am glad you explained why you were bringing up 2 year old posts so well.
pyrochris732 Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 i know its off topic so i apologize in advance, but LOL to mumbles above post!
ghost808 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I live in hawaii so every aerial is illegal! Anyways i pulled out my homemade 3" ti salute about 2 weeks ago. the cops came in like 5 minutes and we ran like crzy!
geoffism Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 The most I've ever had pyro related is when I made my first composition. It was flash powder (of course) thats what drew me to pyrotechnics in the first place but the first firework i ever made was an m80 with 45 grams of flash powder. The stuff I've been buying had around 18grams in them but my contact got caught. I lit it off with my dad and neighbors and it was the loudest thing they have ever heard. The next day 4 police cars patrolled my neighborhood for about 6 hours. For that week at least one car would drive through my culdesac at random times. That was my first and last m80. Girls for the most part don't like those noisey ones anyway so now all I make is colorful stuff. Every once in a while I will put a little flash powder in a morter shell but I like having my fingers
madmandotcom Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 so far, nothing with the cops but i got one hang of a strange look fro a passer by who saw me just after i had picked up some more chems so i was very happy, and was holding a banana box full of little ziplock bags of white powder
hamilton Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 well hopefully the guy setting rockets of into cars and people last night get caught by the law
usapyro Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I was doing burnouts in front of a club in my car. I noticed a cop following me around town fifteen minutes later. I went through a yellow light and got pulled over. He just warned me and informed me undercover cops were observing me at that club. LoL!!! Then a few months later driving down the freeway clocking over a hundred coming back from a vacation in Hawaii... Got pulled over and was just given a ticket, but by state law got my license suspended for a month... Not till a month later though. Had to take a one month vacation to south beach Miami to wait that out. Being unable to drive when living in the country would just drive me up the wall. As for pyro related... Not much I can remember. Me and my friends getting warned by a rent-a-cop for launching off mortars at 1am over the river from a park. (I think the legal cutoff for mortars was 11PM.) Me and friends getting caught launching off tons of roman candles in a park in a nanny state. Cop just told us "Those are awesome, but could you go somewhere more discrete?" Also, accidentally creating a wall of fire across a entire two lane highway. Cops circled around a bit after that. Probably a dozen more little incidents like this I have forgotten about. Cops have never given me any problems really. Me and a bunch of friends were wandering around west Sanfran drinking beers on the street and cops that passed by were just like "Could you guys chug those open cans and toss them please?" No joke. Everything homemade gets lit off miles from anyone. The kind of remote spots where you could shatter ten feet of a four foot tree literally into splinters while causing your ears to pop from a quarter mile away... And come back three days later and the road would not have even have been driven on. The only thing you got to watch out for out west is the seismic sensors. A lot of those things around the mountains monitoring the volcanoes I think. Be smart.
usapyro Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) BS... All the girls I have ever known like em loud. First date I ever went on I took a girl out to blow up watermelons and crap with Chinese m80's... Or maybe it's just the type of girl's I like? That was my first and last m80. Girls for the most part don't like those noisey ones anyway so now all I make is colorful stuff. Every once in a while I will put a little flash powder in a morter shell but I like having my fingers Edited October 21, 2011 by usapyro
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