The "Krom-Air Shaker" AKA Pyroshaker

[Firebob]

You need to check out this out!! DUSTLESS SIEVE SCREENING CHEMS!

 

 

http://www.pyroshaker.net/

[BJV]

You need to check out this out!! DUSTLESS SIEVE SCREENING CHEMS!

 

 

http://www.pyroshaker.net/

Looks like a great item Firebob.

BJV

[TheArchitect23]

looks like a good idea. definantly cleaner!

im sure there is some start up cost there, and the initial bulk order for the design.

$200.00 for 4 screens is out of my price range

[Firebob]

Architech,

Yes start up is a factor. High quality raw materials and production practices to insure longevity keeps prices where they are. I would hope to be able to lower prices in the future, but for now it is what it is.

 

What is your price range? I might have some that have been QA removed for cosmetic defects, but still function as any.

 

Bobby

[TheArchitect23]

I have the fire suit on just incase here , but i would think something to the tune of 29.99 for one, and slight discounts as the quantity rises.

I for one would'nt mind a whole set. at $55 each that'd set one back $600, $440 with the current discount. or $44 each. Plush Shipping. There is no option to buy only the screen section, so you'll have 20 littre cups around taking up space for the people who will not be storing in smaller containers. Example: a set of 10 screens and 2 littre cups as an option would work well for the average guy who uses other containers to store chems, verses buying with the cost of 18 more containers you'd hardly use. you'd buy additionals as you'd need them, due to incompatabilities ect.

 

high quality stainless screen at the proper mesh, good spec seals and other factors come into play for you're price, so that i can't assume. then you still have to make a profit on the sale.

 

Cosmetics dont bother me

 

More information on the product like what its made from, how its made? injection molded, formed. Where the screens are manufactured, what matterial is the jar made from, dishwasher safe? ( as in hot water and soap wont deform them, not that you'd use them in you're food dishwasher... ) those tid bits would aid in you're marketing. for folks like me who have never seen it until now, all i have to go off is a few videos where i can see it in action, the rest is a guess.

Edited July 23, 2013 by TheArchitect23

[Firebob]

Architect,

 

I do appreciate your feedback. You are absolutely right. I have had this discussion elsewhere but not here. I would love to offer this to you and others at at your price point, but as of now the cost of the raw parts and the cost of production has me where I am with the price. The containers and lids come together as a raw part and are sold as that in the final product. These jars stack and nest well, so there is not a lot of space taken up in the shop. When you think about it your desired price of $30 compared to my actual price of $44, it is not that far off, just a few lbs of kno3.

 

As you have brought to my attention, I need to add the following information to my website so these questions are cleared up for everyone.

 

This is a polypropylene container that is injection molded.The screens are 316 market grade stainless steel. I chose this particular material because of it has the highest level of corrosion resistance in the presence of oxidizers. I have taken the container lids and chemically and mechanically etched them. I then bonded the screen between the two lids with an epoxy adhesive formulated for this specific application. Bonding PP is a tricky thing and I have spent much time focused on this one area. I have been working and testing this construction process and the adhesive itself for about two years. I am using an off the shelf container that has a superior ribbed air tight seal compared to any other on the market, all without a gasket. It also has a heavy wall thickness compared to all the other containers available for durability. These containers are dishwasher safe, and I have tested the finished product from freezing to 120 degrees without failure. I have also tested the complete assembly with all the solvents we regularly use in pyro (MEK, acetone,alcohol, paint thinners, naphtha). And you can see that they are color coded and numbered for easy identification in the work space.

 

All that said, I am using high quality raw parts and a designed construction process that takes time. The process ensures longevity of a very useful device to improve safety, efficiency, and cost savings in loss of material as dust.I also have some other ad-on's coming down the line soon as well as a 3.5 gallon version of this tool.

 

I am not willing to sacrifice the quality materials nor the craftsmanship it has taken to bring this product to you. On that note, I have no room as of now for changing the price.

 

Bob

 

PS

 

You can leave comments for me on my site if you are interested in the blemished discounted ones I have, or if you decide to buy a smaller set of screens at the lower price that will suit a specific process you are doing. Thanks again.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Firebob

[Richtee]

Hmm just seen this..looks interesting. Web addy is no good any more tho. Anyone got any info?

[nordicwolf]

We exchanged emails maybe 2 years ago. No longer in the business but said he may be able to put something together for me, but nothing materialized.

 

In the meantime I found that Nutribullet jars work well. I glue two lip lids together back to back with a mesh screen of my choice in the middle. I put the comp in a jar along with 6 or 8 50 cal lead shot and screw the lid on. In the empty jar I put another 6-8 pieces of lead shot then screw to the lid, and it now looks like the pyroshaker. Then I shake through a few times until satisfied.

 

I also did this with Talenti gelato jars, cutting out the top lid leaving only the screw ring. Glue two of those together back to back with mesh in the middle. This works but is smaller and less robust than the Nutribullet jars (but a lot less expensive to make.)

 

I've used 10, 20 and 40 mesh screens like this to make star formulas, prime, green mix, etc.