dagabu Posted July 11, 2009 Posted July 11, 2009 Very cool, Dave. I suppose you just chucked the spindle in the drill press and manipulated the epoxy to form the nozzle former? Frank, That's exactly what I did. I had to either get a motorcycle or a lathe, bad choice, only got road rash and had to make epoxy nozzle formers. The benefit is that I can manipulate the shape with sand paper or a file. Steel wool shines it to a mirror. Not bad for about a buck of materials!
psyco_1322 Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Frank, That's exactly what I did. I had to either get a motorcycle or a lathe, bad choice, only got road rash and had to make epoxy nozzle formers. The benefit is that I can manipulate the shape with sand paper or a file. Steel wool shines it to a mirror. Not bad for about a buck of materials! And that's your tooling from 30 years ago? Nice. It seems pyro rocketry has come quite far in the last 10-15 years.
pyrogeorge Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Here is my rocket tools for core and end burner rockets..(20mm)
nick2354 Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Here is my rocket tools for core and end burner rockets..(20mm) That picture only shows Core burner tooling.
deadman Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 It looks like it might have a piece for endburning sitting to the right. But that just looks like it would recess the clay and you would still have to drill through a solid plug.
dagabu Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 And that's your tooling from 30 years ago? Nice. It seems pyro rocketry has come quite far in the last 10-15 years. HEY!! Wait a minute, its 20 years ago, not 30!! I have made and fired about a thousand rockets with these, almost no sticks, just a few, most were missiles, I like those. Flash = jail, so I just use comets or smoke. Smoke is a real challenge, get it to light, stay lit, go out before touchdown. WHEW!!
pyrogeorge Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 the first rammer is for end burner and the last plug too.it has got socket for screw to remove it from the tube.
MilkyJoe Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 With end burner tools you should still have a small spindle for the nozzle if your making BP rockets. Even for whistle I think you would get better performance with a small core.
cojonesm Posted October 3, 2009 Posted October 3, 2009 Made some stainless steel 8oz rocket tooling today.
dagabu Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 New tooling from Pianomistro: Look no further, this is the stuff!
TYRONEEZEKIEL Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 I love pianos tooling. I like the knurling idea:D
firetech Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I want to make a tube support for a 3/8" OD bottle rockets. I haven't found anything useful around the house or lab that works for anything that small.Any ideas?
Ventsi Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Wow, I'm actually making some aluminum clamshell supports on Thursday! Is it for those small 1/4"ID tubes? I think the OD should be 3/8".I'd say you could make a PVC/hose clamp suport fairly easily
firetech Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Good for you Ventsi-I'm slightly jealous because I'm lacking the tools to do so.PVC would of course be my first choice but as far as I know they don't make it for that size.
mike_au Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I think my 1/4" bottle rocket tubes are about 3/8" OD. What I have for support is just a chunk of pine. I cut it from a fairly thick board with a holesaw, drilled the center hole out and then used a dremel with a grinding attachment to flare one end. So it is a combination tube support and ram-through funnel. It doesn't tighten around the tube so they can deform a little bit but nothing major. Once the rocket is finished it is easy to push out of the support with the rammer and then twist it off the spindle. If you really want PVC, just get a larger size, cut it length ways and heat it in an oven. It should go soft and pliable essentially forming a sheet, you can wrap it around a 3/8" tube and let it cool.
Mumbles Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 For my small spolette tubes of this size, I simply drilled a hole in a piece of wood, and sanded it smooth. It gives decen support and the tubes come out. It scratches up the outside a bit, but that just makes the glue hold better. What's the exact OD of your tubes? Schedule 40 1/4" PVC is actually a shade under 3/8" ID, about .01" undersized. Schedule 40 dimension table: http://www.snapfour.com/pdf/Table_38-39.pdfsupplier of 1/4" PVC:http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog_name=USPlastic&category_name=13669&product_id=16587 Note, the ID will vary somewhat, so I can't guarantee it will work. I've seen dimensions between .34-.39 or so.
firetech Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I can't measure it right now. I'll get a caliper on it tomorrow. They are tight in a 3/8'' bore when I slide them into my shells. I'm sure Wolter could come up with something simple for just under $150.
Swede Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 I'm sold on the concept of solid tube supports for smaller rockets. The tube will obviously expand and stick pretty hard to the bore of the support, but if the support is perhaps lubed lightly with silicone or maybe dry PTFE spray or similar, and the ejection rammer is a good fit so that it presses on the tube, and FINALLY, if you have a decent press, the loaded tubes should be ejected with little fuss. A very smooth support wall would be important. I'm thinking this will work fine up to perhaps 4 oz. Definitely for bottle-rocket sizes, which is the only size I have tried. It greatly simplifies the creation of a support, but does add a bit more work overall when pressing the rockets.
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