Most Used Titanium Sizes

[xetap]

I recently rec'd. a PM- as I'm sure many others have- asking about a group buy of Ti.

 

The mesh sizes are open- so if a person were to choose one or two mesh size/type of Ti, what would they be?

[AdmiralDonSnider]

I´d definately say 225-450µ sponge or granular, it´s very common in brocades and other tailed effects.

[Twotails]

Alright, sence this is open, I just got word:

-40 to -200, seems it will be mostly -40, 60, and a little 200 mesh $10/lb, if we place an order for 50-100lb. The more orderd, the more the price goes down. The -325 mesh that i origanaly requested would have been about $30/lb.

 

I can order under 50lbs, but the price goes up. , and over 100 it goes down further.

 

The particals are:

 

-40 mesh is sponge

-60 is spherical

and from my understanding the 325 mesh would be granules

 

I could probabaly get a mixture, but you guys would have to decide on the mesh for them.

Edited February 8, 2010 by Twotails

[Ventsi]

I would put my vote an the 60 mesh spherical. You don't even want to mess with the -325 stuff, trust me I have a lb and its pure evil. I've made strike anywhere matches with it to bring things into perspective. Edited February 9, 2010 by Ventsi

[Twotails]

The range i was thinking of was the -40 to -200 range, Sound reasonable?

 

Now heres the thing, From what i understand the sponge is the -40 stuff, and the spherical is the -60 stuff, the finer stuff(im guessing up to -200) will be granulas, and there will be little 200mesh in there, or so he says.

 

I could see if A.). it could be all Sponge, probably leading to a corser materal B.). It could be all Spherical, only thing is i guess he only has 60 mesh of spherical. C.). The finer side, granuals, Or D.). a combination of above.

Or maby a drum of Mixed, -40 to 325, and screening out the 325? I know a few people who would like it this fine, but i cant realy see the point if only 2 or three people would want stuff that fine. of corse that would mean i would need to get me some screens just for this operation, and i would like to keep manual sifting to a minimum(its just little-ole me, and sifting through a 50-100lb barral dosent sound too fun)

 

 

So i realy need a little bit of direction here, like if it we picked a mixture of -40 to -200, what ratio of the spesific sizes? Or am i over thinking it?

Edited February 9, 2010 by Twotails

[MikeB]

Sponge, flake, spherical, all have different properties. Depending on what you are using it in will determine the optimum mesh range, and the best type to use. Generally, sponge finer than 100 mesh has little use in formulas. The process by which it is produced will also affect the color of the sparks. Manesium reduced material will burn white, Sodium reduced will have a dog pee yellow color. It would also be wise to be aware of shipping regulations. It cannot be shipped without hazmat certification.

[Pretty green flame]

Which type of titanium will produce sparks with the longest hangtime in a colored wave composition? Something in the range of atleast 3 seconds is desirable.

[Twotails]

I just go done talking with the guy. Freight is gonna cost like, $95 to ship here so it will add like $1-2 per pound, Still $12 a pound. I'll probably ship by USPS flatrate, Unless of corse Titanium cant be shipped that way. Hazmat may increase the price, but i'll try and keep it as cheap as possable. Im not aiming to make anything off this at all, I just want to score us a nice inexpensive supply of Ti.

[dagabu]

Sponge, flake, spherical, all have different properties. Depending on what you are using it in will determine the optimum mesh range, and the best type to use. Generally, sponge finer than 100 mesh has little use in formulas. The process by which it is produced will also affect the color of the sparks. Manesium reduced material will burn white, Sodium reduced will have a dog pee yellow color. It would also be wise to be aware of shipping regulations. It cannot be shipped without hazmat certification.

 

Mike, cant the Ti be mixed with course flakes or turnings to make it shippable like is done with Mg?

 

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[Twotails]

Im requesting that information right now, im guessing it needs to be sent ORM-D

[firetech]

I vote for flake if you can get it. Mesh size is not too much of an issue, just not super fine.

[Twotails]

He dosent carry flake, Only sponge, spherical, and granular, But I will double check.

[firetech]

Then I vote for sponge or granular.

[Twotails]

We could get a mixture, that much im sure of. it would range from 40 being sponge, to 60 being sherical, to finer stuff(up to 200 mesh?) being granular.

 

if theres any information that you want me to find out, i'd be more than happy to request it.

[firetech]

Since the different types of Ti serve many different purposes and react very differently, I don't think that would be a good idea. I don't speak for everyone though, that's just my opinion.

Flake: Reports, high temp colored stars, D-eggs

Sponge: Comets, Reports

Spherical: Gerbs, streamer/spider stars

[Twotails]

Im just saying its a possablility, the diffrent meshes could always be screened out. I need to know what most people would want. If you want spherical, its going to be 60 mesh, becouse from what he informed me the only spherical he has is in 60 mesh. The granulated Ti comes only in the fine stuff. and the spounge is the corse stuff(40 mesh), but i think he does have it up to 100 mesh(not sure though.)

 

I dont have an account on Passfire, So, its basicly going to limited to here, unless of corse someone is willing to help get the word out once we start to finalize mesh, and shape. once this get's all sorted out, i would prefer paypal, But would be willing to work out another payment option. Im taking a ride over to the post office sometime this week to find out how to tackle shipping.

[MikeB]

Im just saying its a possablility, the diffrent meshes could always be screened out. I need to know what most people would want. If you want spherical, its going to be 60 mesh, becouse from what he informed me the only spherical he has is in 60 mesh. The granulated Ti comes only in the fine stuff. and the spounge is the corse stuff(40 mesh), but i think he does have it up to 100 mesh(not sure though.)

 

I dont have an account on Passfire, So, its basicly going to limited to here, unless of corse someone is willing to help get the word out once we start to finalize mesh, and shape. once this get's all sorted out, i would prefer paypal, But would be willing to work out another payment option. Im taking a ride over to the post office sometime this week to find out how to tackle shipping.

 

I have sat idly by and listened to this inane chatter. Do your research. Not only with shipping, but with the particular uses, types, and mesh sizes. From what I have read you are grabbing at straws.

 

It sounds like your supplier doesn't know what he is talking about either. And all he wants to do is sell the crap he has on the shelf.

 

I purchased a few tons. But I knew what I was getting into before I did.

 

It cannot be shipped legally through the USPS. One F$%^k up and you will be in jail for a long, long, time.

 

Sorry, I am not trying to be a jerk, but I would be remiss if one of you guys took out a plane because you thought you were getting a deal. Just bite the bullet and ship it hazmat. Oh.. that is an $x00 seminar, plus additional shipping charges.

[Mumbles]

When you only want a hundred pounds or so you can't expect to get anything more than what he has sitting around.

[Twotails]

I know how to ship it, Ground only ect, what i need to know is what exactly we need, and i have done my reaserch. I dont want to buy what is most commonly used, but what most people need. this is the first time i've done this sort of thing, so im learning. we just have to decide on what is most needed, becouse at $10/lb for for up to 50lbs is a good price hands down. and the supplyer im with doent want to "sell me crap on the shelf" he's trying to get me the best deal with what i've told him. Im trying to do the best i can. Edited February 11, 2010 by Twotails

[xetap]

I have sat idly by and listened to this inane chatter. Do your research. Not only with shipping, but with the particular uses, types, and mesh sizes. From what I have read you are grabbing at straws.

 

It sounds like your supplier doesn't know what he is talking about either. And all he wants to do is sell the crap he has on the shelf.

 

I purchased a few tons. But I knew what I was getting into before I did.

Well- then why don't you tell us your price and mesh/type available and if it's good everyone can deal through you? If you buy by the TON, it ought to be a good price... Edited February 11, 2010 by xetap

[MikeB]

Well- then why don't you tell us your price and mesh/type available and if it's good everyone can deal through you? If you buy by the TON, it ought to be a good price...

 

I believe I sent you a PM with the sieve analysis of my stock already. And stated that I did not want to mess up your deal. I am open to private discussion though. What I have purchased has been for my own stock and to resell to commercial customers.

 

In my experience sponge or spherical is the best to use. Some people like the spherical because they claim it is less sensitive to friction and causes less damage to star plates or pumps. Personally I think the sponge form is more reactive and provides a better effect. There is a lot of garbage out there and an accurate assay is important.

 

Turnings are readily available for less than 9 bucks a pound. $10 a pound for sponge is fair, but not cheap.

 

For large salutes and dripping comet effects, an 8-16 mesh is desireable.

20-40 mesh also works good for a snowball type of salute.

40-100 mesh is what you want for stars and comets.

100 mesh and down has very limited uses.

[MikeB]

As a side note. If you are interested in Fe-Ti, I have it available for $10 a pound in 10 pound lots.

I will post this when I see fit in the appropriate forum.

[FREAKYDUTCHMEN]

100 mesh and down has very limited uses.

-100 mesh very commonly used in broccade type shells.

 

And for example Add 8% or more -100 mesh to your TT and it's so much nicer, like in the picture.

[xetap]

I believe I sent you a PM with the sieve analysis of my stock already. And stated that I did not want to mess up your deal. I am open to private discussion though.

I believe you have mistaken me for someone else- I've not received, nor requested, a sieve analysis of your material.

[TSO]

I'd be in for some spherical and some sponge if this gets off the ground.