Timed Reports

[Swede]

I got my caps! They look great, thanks. Time to do some serious header work.

[dagabu]

I am sorry that APC was busted, I got over 20 rolls of time fuse drop shipped to those that ordered it. Just to rub it in, it cost $55.00 delivered for 802'.

 

Swede, lets see some video on those.

 

I have two rockets that are just testing the time fuse prime, one is using whistle and the next I am trying flash. I finally got a video camera, its a GoPro HD, Naked, I will do my first night shoots tonight.

 

I have 10,000 more cap plugs on their way for $25.00 a thousand and 2000 will fit into the medium priority box. The box ships to the lower 48 for $10.95.

 

Email me coldfire11@msn.com

 

Dave

[dagabu]

Another rocket with some 'interesting' reports.

 

http://www.pyrotube.com/videos/389/timed-reports-2

 

D

[swervedriver]

Dagabu, pretty damn good if you ask me. Is that the cheaper brown time fuse or the vulcan type?

[dagabu]

It is the cheap-est time fuse! this is the all white string, brown paper, .220" time fuse that is sold here:

 

http://www.acepyro.com/Shop/clearance.aspx

 

 

They have very few rolls left, each case is 4 - 250 meter rolls, most don't need that much so I have been doing drop ships from them and sending out single rolls for $40.00 plus shipping (aprox $15.00 per roll).

 

 

 

Or here for $2.00 for 10' or $.20 a foot:

 

http://www.pyrodirect.com/ccp0-catshow/fuse.html

 

Thanks for the compliment but I have a long way to go and I was just using up the whistle cap plugs to fill space so ignore the first ring

 

D

[Mumbles]

Is this the same stuff Dave?

 

http://www.cannonfuse.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=7&idcategory=2

 

It makes a lot of sense why the price of timefuse has been dropping recently. I have used fuse exactly like the link I posted, and it has always worked fine. To be fair, I did have my one and only dud with it, but I never recovered the shell, so I don't know if it was time fuse or manufacture error.

[dagabu]

To be fair, I would have to look at the end to be sure and the wrapping strings look a little tighter twist but otherwise it looks the same. I dont want to poke at you (well maybe I do:) but it is possible that it didn't pass fire from the cross matching.

 

I have not had a single piece fail and I have gone through an entire roll now. I did give some away so lets call it 500' but it all worked well for me.

 

While on this subject, I fired a rocket last night (I posted it here twice) and I had one cap plug fail to light. I went home for lunch and I found it, the time fuse had not taken fire from the black match that was draped over the bare time fuse (no prime). It looks like just hot gluing the black match on to the time fuse is not enough and needs a clove hitch as well.

 

D

[swervedriver]

Dagabu, for the inserts- are you punching and crossmatching, folding over and tying black match, or end-priming them?

 

EDIT- dangit you type fasterthan me, lol...

Edited March 24, 2010 by swervedriver

[dagabu]

Tee-Hee!

 

The time fuse will not fit the cap plug if cross matched but I would love to do it that way! I am stuck with real low profile ideas like flat black match and priming with less then normal materials. (cross matching is horrible for timing, it can vary by 1/4 second no matter what you do)

 

I have a bunch made up on my bench, I will snap a pic tonight and post it so you can see clearly what I am talking about. I have tried maybe 8 different glues including PVA (shame on me) to bond the prime to the flash side of the time fuse with the desire to have no fire block and no side spit but a good 90° spray of prime to light the flash.

 

The canister side if a little different, I do not prime it at all! Now, I would love to put a nice heavy prime on them but it screws my timing up bad! I found that I had to pull a six strand black match laid flat to dry, spritz it with water and shake on 7FA to catch fire, let it dry, cut it into 3/4" long pieces and hot glue them on.

 

PITA!!

Edited March 24, 2010 by dagabu

[Swede]

 

The canister side if a little different, I do not prime it at all! Now, I would love to put a nice heavy prime on them but it screws my timing up bad! I found that I had to pull a six strand black match laid flat to dry, spritz it with water and shake on 7FA to catch fire, let it dry, cut it into 3/4" long pieces and hot glue them on.

 

PITA!!

 

Can you elaborate on how you prime the cannister-side of the time fuse, then? Are you saying you DO NOT prime them at all? Or have you come up with a method that is simple AND provides acceptable timing. Thanks!

[dagabu]

Sorry, I completely forgot that I promised that. I have the pix at home but I dont know if I will have the time to post them. I am working on the tutorial and have the first page done. Go ahead and tear it apart, just be nice with your criticism.

 

D

 

http://sites.google.com/site/spamento/

[TrueBluePyro]

Looking good Dave. Here is another video of you cap plugs. This is my best shell yet perfect ring and I used Red flash powder

 

Here is the slow motion which is worth watching if you want to see everything.

 

Stats:

 

3" can shell

Sipiked with 1mm thick hemp twine

 

Burst Charge:

BP on Cotton see

 

Booster:

1.6g very hot 70/30 flash.

[dagabu]

Looking good Dave. Here is another video of you cap plugs. This is my best shell yet perfect ring and I used Red flash powder

 

Here is the slow motion which is worth watching if you want to see everything.

 

Stats:

 

3" can shell

Sipiked with 1mm thick hemp twine

 

Burst Charge:

BP on Cotton see

 

Booster:

1.6g very hot 70/30 flash.

 

Will,

 

Did you glue the time fuse into the plugs? It looked like you had a few go too soon but the timing on the ring was terrific! I like the clarity and spread were great!

 

D

[TrueBluePyro]

Yes, I few did go off early, which was a shame, but an easy fix. I was in a hurry and I rushed using some hot glue.

 

I only cut the fuse by lining it up with a rule and marking it with a pen and then cutting it lol. So its good that the timing is that close.

[Voryon]

Nice Shell!!! Would you mind sharing the red flash formula?

 

Thanks in advance

[dagabu]

I only cut the fuse by lining it up with a rule and marking it with a pen and then cutting it lol.

 

Impressive Will! Try super glue (I know, get off your back!) next time. Are you dip priming them?

 

D

[TrueBluePyro]

Nice Shell!!! Would you mind sharing the red flash formula?

 

Thanks in advance

 

I used 1 strontium nitrate and 1 Mg powder. The flash alone wasn't strong enough so I mixed it with some very hot and fast granulated BP.

 

Impressive Will! Try super glue (I know, get off your back!) next time. Are you dip priming them?

 

D

 

 

Thanks Dave . Yea, I guess I should have tried super glue in the first place. I was just trying to make the 'masters' way simpler lol. The time fuse looked so tight when it is in the caps that I didn't think that anything could get past it.

 

With the prime, I think it was your idea,

not sure, saw it on passfire, but I put a some NC in a lid and then use the pointy bit of a skewer and apply it to one end of the time fuse and then dip it in some crushed up granulated BP mixed with some titainium and silicon. It works for me everytime.

[dagabu]

not sure, saw it on passfire, but I put a some NC in a lid and then use the pointy bit of a skewer and apply it to one end of the time fuse and then dip it in some crushed up granulated BP mixed with some titainium and silicon. It works for me everytime.

 

I think you used two different ideas, I came up with the skewer and I think you are using fence post prime.

 

I will have to try that, I really liked it. BTW- the red was very pretty! (in a manly way of course) I appreciate all of the out-of-the-box thinking, I too hate convention and like to see ideas come to play in modernizing pyro.

 

Expect to see some red reports come from me as well.

 

D

[TrueBluePyro]

Awesome mate. I guess I should mention as well that when I made my NC I mixed it with black powder, becauase I know NC doesnt burn that great in this situtation and I just want it for the glue, so the black powder helps it burn a lot better when it is just a thin layer.

 

The red flash looked a lot more deeper in person, but still didn't look too bad on camera.

[TrueBluePyro]

displayfireworks1 got a video of the masters rockets and his work! Truely amazing rockets.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=intmdbzkE_s

[dagabu]

Thanks Will, I haven't visited Dave's site since last fall when he did the unauthorized taping at PGI last year that everyone on PF got all upset about.

 

Dave

[TrueBluePyro]

Oh true. How does that work. Do you need some kind of permission to video at the PGI?

[dagabu]

The video you showed about the master does not show his face, that is OK since those that do not wish to be filmed are not but those that are OK with it have to be asked first.

 

There a lot of pyros that do not have all of the credentials to make pyro and they wish to stay out of the lime light. We respect that at all costs.

 

D

[TrueBluePyro]

If you guys haven't seen it. This is a great 2 part video all about the 'masters' rockets.

 

P-1

P-2