dagabu Posted January 20, 2010 Author Posted January 20, 2010 Yes... The problem is that I cant tell you who it is, he wishes to remain silent. These are his rockets, the first ones are crossets and the last ones are the reports we are talking about. Prepare to be blown away! http://www.pyrotube.com/videos/179/cracker-jacks-spring-2009
xetap Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Prepare to be blown away!Without doubt some of the nicest rocket born effects I've seen in a good while. The double and reversing spirals and the triple ring were reports put to excellent use. Think I liked the first crossette about the best, but the 4-way towards the end was killer.
dagabu Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 Oh my lord those were some nice shells! These are little tiny 3/4" ID rockets with an increment of Win 39 J pressed on top of the black powder and a little tiny 2.5" shell filled with three rows of little tiny cap plugs with 1 gram of vitamin F and a pinch of Ti for sparks. Pretty amazing huh? It takes about 6' of time fuse to make one, ACE Pyro has a deal on clearance time fuse.
Ventsi Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I stand corrected. Those were VERY nice!I suppose if somebody who makes such shells uses them I can too. The only thing that I was worried abot was that I use Bright Al/Perch flash, and thought they might not be nuff' confinement. I'm sure they'll do fine though.
dagabu Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 I stand corrected. Those were VERY nice!I suppose if somebody who makes such shells uses them I can too. The only thing that I was worried abot was that I use Bright Al/Perch flash, and thought they might not be nuff' confinement. I'm sure they'll do fine though. Flash is flash, some do better then others but flash none the less. I suggest a clove hitch on the cap plug if you have any doubts.
Mumbles Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 If you find you're not getting the effect you want, a little blackhead will go a long way. It wont break the bank making these little guys.
dagabu Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 If you find you're not getting the effect you want, a little blackhead will go a long way. It wont break the bank making these little guys. Lets do the math: 1 gram of F per cap, 450 grams (aprox) per pound, 30% Al, 135 grams of Al per pound of F, about three pounds of F per 1 pound of Al, almost 1500 reports from 1 pound of Al. Good German Al from Andji, $15.00 a pound... You all may want to get 3000 caps just to be sure
optimus Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Yes... The problem is that I cant tell you who it is, he wishes to remain silent. These are his rockets, the first ones are crossets and the last ones are the reports we are talking about. Prepare to be blown away! http://www.pyrotube.com/videos/179/cracker-jacks-spring-2009 If I had made those rockets I'd want the world to know! Absolutely fantastic effects. Those crossettes were great, even though I'd prefer them in other colours....
dagabu Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 Want More? huh? Do ya? OK then, here is the master, still not telling you who he is though. http://www.youtube.com/user/displayfirewor.../11/mleIa1rwBHk
dagabu Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 I hope everybody is sitting down, I got the quote back from the vendor and the caps will come in at $22.00 a thousand with a 50M purchase. $22.00! I will be sending the master a sample for approval and will hear back by next week. ALL monies will need to be paid up front (except for shipping) before the order is made and I will be holding a stock of these for the future at this price. PLEASE don't send anything yet, we still have two hurdles to jump first, keep tuned. Dave P.S. we started at $50.00 a box, it's now $22.00 a box, that's 2M for $44.00. Buy two! http://passfire.com/forum/images/emoticons/wink.gif
Richtee Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I dunno what all the excitement is. With good enough "vitamin F" you could wrap the time fuse and contents in a couple layers of heavy duty tin foil and get reports. See the post on German black.
dagabu Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 I dunno what all the excitement is. With good enough "vitamin F" you could wrap the time fuse and contents in a couple layers of heavy duty tin foil and get reports. See the post on German black. I guess that if you were game, I would ask that you make a spiral shell out of the method you speak of and post the video. I am guessing that there is a reason why a 2 time grandmaster uses them.
Richtee Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I guess that if you were game, I would ask that you make a spiral shell out of the method you speak of and post the video. I am guessing that there is a reason why a 2 time grandmaster uses them.Dunno...I'm just a former backyard hack. But I have used that method, and it does work. Think I deleted the vid of the "octoshell" due to LE worries.
dagabu Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 Dunno...I'm just a former backyard hack. But I have used that method, and it does work. Think I deleted the vid of the "octoshell" due to LE worries. I picked up a roll of aluminum tape last month for a repair at work and it cost me $6.23. Two turns of the tape runs $.02076, darn close to what the plugs run. I usually get mammoth rolls from a junk shop in town for $5.00 but the Duct stuff is used by pyros all over.
Swede Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 As I mentioned in the PM, I'm in for at least 2K. I'm digging those spiraled effects. To make them properly I think will require a VERY consistent construction technique, exact time-fuse lengths, and if any of the peripheral effects are off even by a little, it will spoil the whole shell. This is probably one of those cases where such a cap would be helpful to obtain the necessary consistency.
Mumbles Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 I think Rich was just trying to make the point that good flash is potent enough to self confine and go bang with a few turns of tape, and that one of the caps should provide more than enough confinement. I don't think he was intending to mean that this would work as a replacement for the caps in the ring shells. The trick to those shells is a very accurate fuse cutter. There are some plans and pictures on passfire or pyrobin. Rich Wolter has a very nice tool for this, although something much simpler and cheaper is possible, but it might give you some ideas. http://www.wolterpyrotools.com/?page=cc_catg&cat=shells
dagabu Posted January 23, 2010 Author Posted January 23, 2010 The trick to those shells is a very accurate fuse cutter. There are some plans and pictures on passfire or pyrobin. Rich Wolter has a very nice tool for this, although something much simpler and cheaper is possible, but it might give you some ideas. http://www.wolterpyrotools.com/?page=cc_catg&cat=shells SAWEET!! Uh, could you lend me $500.00 for a fuse cutter?
Richtee Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 I think Rich was just trying to make the point that good flash is potent enough to self confine and go bang with a few turns of tape, and that one of the caps should provide more than enough confinement. I don't think he was intending to mean that this would work as a replacement for the caps in the ring shells.Yes sir...thank you very much. Also less fallout. I could have phrased it better I suppose, and will endeavor to do so in the future. My apologies.
dagabu Posted January 23, 2010 Author Posted January 23, 2010 Yes sir...thank you very much. Also less fallout. I could have phrased it better I suppose, and will endeavor to do so in the future. My apologies. No, I apologize, I hate it when the boys on passfire get all pissy, I take the heat here sometimes and get cocky. Dave
dagabu Posted January 28, 2010 Author Posted January 28, 2010 I have had only a few orders for the Cap Plugs here on APC and over 27 thousand plugs ordered on Passfire. This is a very good buy for this small and easy to do insert and thought that the crew here would have more interest in something like this. Looks like I have to whet your whistle a little more huh? $25.00 a thousand, they go out USPS in the medium box for $10.95 shipping, 2000 will be a buck or two more to ship. The price isn't good enough? Thake a look at this video and tell me you dont want to do a shell like this! Just remember that these shell can be sent up from a mortar or on a rocket. http://www.pyrobin.com/files/cap%20plug%20...0rocket%20j.jpg http://www.pyrotube.com/videos/179/cracker-jacks-spring-2009 The cap plugs are for the timed reports at the end. YES, you can make these! Email me with your order, coldfire11@msn.com I have a great line on time fuse for dirt cheap too! Dave
psyco_1322 Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 (edited) Just ordered my 2000. Guess Ill be making cool rockets while everyone else watches the videos Edited January 29, 2010 by psyco_1322
dagabu Posted February 3, 2010 Author Posted February 3, 2010 The order for cap plugs has been made and a promise of order completion on Feb 16th has been given!! Now all of you that have decided that you dont want to play with cap plugs, watch all the videos and then let me know how many you want to order. I will have an extra 10,000 ready to sell if you change your mind $36.00 a thousand shipped to your house in the lower 48. I can get you time fuse too, PM me for details. D
psyco_1322 Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 What kind of time fuse do you have? Going price?
dagabu Posted February 4, 2010 Author Posted February 4, 2010 The order for cap plugs has been made and a promise of order completion on Feb 16th has been given!! Now all of you that have decided that you dont want to play with cap plugs, watch all the videos and then let me know how many you want to order. I will have an extra 10,000 ready to sell if you change your mind $36.00 a thousand shipped to your house in the lower 48. I can get you time fuse too, PM me for details. D BUMP!
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