usatrapper Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 Hi all, I have been doing some research and cannot find out much about Sun And Planets shells. So I have a few simple questions regarding them. First of all, what is the best size to make them ( 5'' and under) and also what types of inserts should be made? I have seen a video of a lampare used for the sun. Although I have no experience with lampares what so-ever. All I know is that they are fueled by a liquid.
Mumbles Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 The best size is whatever you are comfortable with. I've seen them as small as 2". You might have seen me say that you really can't make miniature effects without fully knowing the intricacies of the larger variety. This was an example that proves my point, as he had obviously never made a larger variety. I personally have only made them in 5" varieties. There is an excellent tutorial at Passfire, and in Pyrotechnica XI. Traditionally, color stars are used in both the sun and planet breaks. My personal preference is a gold glitter for the sun break, and colored planets. Win 20 looks particularly nice with it's strobe like quality. Lampares are an advanced shell, and have a few special techniques and precautions. There may be a thread on them here, or someone could give you some advice if you are interested. I use 1 1/4" ID inserts, which come out to about 1 3/8" OD once spiked and pasted. A 5" shell fit 7 of these very snugly. It also forms a very convenient sized cavity in the middle that I just fill with burst instead of using a canula. One of the most important pieces of advice I can give is to use the identical fuse for the planets as well as the sun. I spent an entire summer trying to sync spolettes with time fuse for sun and planet shells. Now I just use time fuse for everything.
psyco_1322 Posted December 27, 2009 Posted December 27, 2009 Found it!! http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n3/psyco_1322/S4023902.jpg
firetech Posted December 27, 2009 Posted December 27, 2009 Whats this type of shell supposed to be? a big shell surrounded by multiple smaller ones?
psyco_1322 Posted December 27, 2009 Posted December 27, 2009 "The Sun and Planets effect is characterized by the simultaneous break of all the planets and a larger central color break (the sun)." It's a 2 break shell, where the first break is a shell of shells, containing the "planets" and the second break is the "sun". The timing on the planets and the sun are the same as to were they all break at once, giving a large center break surrounded by several smaller breaks.
Mumbles Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Yours wasn't actually the one I was talking about. There was another that was just charcoal streamers, and was a single break. The main break went off, followed by insert shells later with not very precise timing. You can see a less than spectacular example of a sun and planet in the 3rd shell here. It kind of broke side on (the worst angle), and I didn't follow Lloyd S' instructions for pinball prime, so very few of the planet stars lit. http://www.apcforum.net/Mumbles/July2009.wmv
firetech Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 That information might be useful to me. What are the instructions for the prime?
Mumbles Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 To add a fast burning BP layer over the top as the pinball prime can be hard to get going or blow out at high speeds.
firetech Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Luckily, but almost obviously, thats what I did. Some of the stars still blew blind though. Is the issue possibly because they are 1/4''? My hypothesis is that there is so little heat that they can blow out much much easier than anything larger.
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