fireworks Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Thought about this the other day and it seems to work well for shells. Instead of doing 3 strip or some other commonly known method, would pasting an X around the shell work just as well? When I say pasting an X, I mean pasting just like you would fiber tape a shell, but cover the whole shell in gummed kraft. It goes a lot faster because you don't have to cut the kraft as much, and you can go around in one direction 4 or 5 times before you have to cut and switch places.
Seymour Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I do not use conventional pasting methods, instead I paste largely using the "tennis ball" pattern, as I like to call it. Essentially two long rectangles of pasted paper that roughly fit together to do one layer. I alternate how they go on randomly, and it does the job, fast! You have also decided you are keen on a new method, which should save lots of time. I cannot promise that it will be successful, but I see no reason why not, it looks good! To know though, you should just try it!
Mumbles Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I am trying to visualize what you're trying to say here. Are you talking about a continuous strip? Lets say you start at the fuse, and wrap it completely around, and just offset a bit on the next one to make a layer directly next to the first. Shimizu (I think) mentions something similar to what you are saying. An "X" is pasted on the shell using relatively wide paper. Each strip is a full circumfrence. Two strips are used to make the big X, and then 4 shorter strips are used to fill in the remaining quadrants. I can get more information later if needed as this is all memory. Someone (passfire maybe) tried it, and said it made an ugly looking shell, but it broke well. Maybe some pictures or something would help. If anyone else is getting a better mental image than I, please share.
fireworks Posted December 2, 2009 Author Posted December 2, 2009 I'm not home right now, but I'll add a pic later tonight.
firetech Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 He does it the same way Ned does it in his 4' plastic hemi article, except with .5'' gummed kraft rather than strapping tape.
fireworks Posted December 3, 2009 Author Posted December 3, 2009 Exactly. But I'll go around maybe 4 or 5 times, cut, do the other side of the X and then do another X on a different part of the shell until I finish covering the entire shell.
dagabu Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 Exactly. But I'll go around maybe 4 or 5 times, cut, do the other side of the X and then do another X on a different part of the shell until I finish covering the entire shell. I tried the tennis ball taping with my 3" ball shells but didn't like all the wrinkles. I roll off some 2" kraft packing tape and cut it down to 1/2" and use that for the X method or use 1/4" tape and bend it to follow all the open spaces. D
Twotails Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I think i paste my shells similer(with packing tape) The idea came to me few years ago while i was wrapping a pingpong ball filled with smokemix with electrical tape(Bad idea by the way, all you get is a sticky sputtering mess thats a PITA to clean up) The only problem was the area around the fuse looked ugly, and slightly misshapen. This was easly fixed by useing wider strips to start with, finishing with smaller, longer strips. It does kinda look ugly, but it's quick, and easy.
Karlos Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 The best pasting, japanese method by Shimizu: http://books.google.cz/books?id=n_WnLou8fn...;q=&f=false
Seymour Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I tried the tennis ball taping with my 3" ball shells but didn't like all the wrinkles. I roll off some 2" kraft packing tape and cut it down to 1/2" and use that for the X method or use 1/4" tape and bend it to follow all the open spaces. D I find that the wrinkles can be minimized a lot by really letting the paste soak in to the paper for a few hours first, so that it is very soft and lays down well. That said, it is a quick method, and is not for when you want the prettiest shells!
50AE Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I have the habbit to do the 3 strip method quite fast now, there are no wrinkles and my shells brake well.
FREAKYDUTCHMEN Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 Yes 50AE thats the way to go, that's how the do it in china. They have the experience to know which way is best.
Mumbles Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I just feel like trying to do it analogous to the strapping tape in that method wouldn't result in a very uniform paper layer.
fireworks Posted December 7, 2009 Author Posted December 7, 2009 Well after a few tests over the weekend, it doesn't seem to be as good as 3 strip, but still works.
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