stug161 Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 German Dark Aluminum ECKART 5413 H Super 2Lb OBRON 1200 mesh Aluminum 1 Lb-325 Atomized Spherical Aluminum 1 LbMagnesium Turnings 1 LbGranular Magnesium -80 +200 1 LbGranular Magnesium -20 +40 1 Lb Mg/Al -600 1 LbCast Turnings Various -20 -40 -80 5 LbIron Filings 1 LbSulfur 4.5 LbLactose 1 LbCharcoal Airfloat 2.5 Lb KCLO4 29 LbKCLO3 4 LbKNO3 4 LbNaNO3 1 LbNH4CLO4 1 LbBaNO3 3 LbSrNO3 2.5 Lb SrCO3 1 LbBaSO4 1 LbCuO 1 LbFe2O3 1 LbNH4CL3 1 Lb Sodium Benzoate 1 LbBlue Smoke Mix .5 LbRed Gem 1 LbDextrin 1 LbPVC 1 LbParlon 1 Lb ........... (On order) NH4 CLO4 2 LbMg/Al -100 +200 1 LbMg/Al -30 +60 1 LbAluminum Bright Flake Tails 1 Lb-325 Atomized Spherical Aluminym 5 LbHexamine 1 Lb Saran 1 Lb CuCO3 1LbHexachloroethane 1 Lb Also, 300 feet visce, 300 feet chinese 2mm and 3mm 100 super fast paper fuse 200 feet flying fish Various tubes and shells(like 400) Two digital scales, mortar tubes, Ball mill, Tons of tupperware and plastic containers, lots of screens in many mesh, about 15 dowel rods, rolls of kraft paper, all the alcohols and acetone and ping pong balls, spoons, cups, bowls plastic tubes, drying sheets, So much more I cant think of. I have been into this since I was like 10. Finally I have the ability to have the materials and learn from the ground up!
Ralph Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 couldn't you have done all of that in one post looks like oyu have most of the basics now now to start making things
Miech Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 That looks nice. Be very careful with that -600 mesh magnalium though, it's scary stuff. You might want to order some potassium dichromate for coating your magnesium, wether you are using it for strobes or other things.
cojonesm Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Before making compositions, search for information about chemicals that are new to you otherwise accidants will happen easily. Nice chems.
Arthur Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Weigh out a tiny amount for a test mix, into separate paper dishes. The close all your containers and put them away before you mix anything. That way any problem is with the test batch only.
KruseMissile Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 bet u cant wait for that ball mill! Great collection! Brian
Twotails Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 If you dont mind me asking, what was the price paid for all of that? ( just a rough estimate), also what sites did you do most of your shopping on?
stug161 Posted August 19, 2009 Author Posted August 19, 2009 Thanks for all the encouragement! I am a little sad about that Mg/Al. I bought it with the impression that it was roughly 300 mesh. Knowing now that it is -600, it is pretty much of no use to me... I moved my project chevy truck out of the garage so I have extra room to work. I hope my mill gets delivered before the weekend. I kind of went crazy buying things, its just too hard to resist getting a few extra things on every order(When the things are only $4-$5, why not, if the order is $90 instead of $80, oh well) I tried not to specialize in any one area, just got everything I could. That way when the time comes I will be partly prepared. Wal Mart is a bad place too. Tubs, Trays, Silly things I really dont need like Vaseline and Silicone II I dont even have any rocket tooling yet! I of course have all my reciepts, but I am afraid to add it up. I know I have placed a $250 order, 2 $100+ orders, probably 5 $50 orders and a few $25-$30 orders, plus probably $100 from local stores. And $40 for my screen material from McMaster Carr.. Man... wow.. Thats like $1000.. Hmmm.. I probably could have done better If I would have made a good list, shopped for the best prices and made exact orders based on that. There are so many sights. It just sucks that the places with the better prices dont have certain things. Just got home and tried one of my blue stars. I guess it is dry now! One touch with a match and it is going strong!! Thanks everybody and board!! Robert
Swede Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Weigh out a tiny amount for a test mix, into separate paper dishes. The close all your containers and put them away before you mix anything. That way any problem is with the test batch only. I think this is very important, and something I do with every new composition that I do not have experience with. 5 grams is a good test, smaller can be difficult due to the need to weigh to the milligram. Even 5 grams of certain comps can be dangerous, of course, but 99% of star comps at 5 grams are not going to cause too many problems. Once mixed, you can get a feel for how well it binds, takes prime, how hard the stars are, and you can do tests on the sensitivity of the dried comp. A bit of hammer whacking, friction, etc. Take what you learned (such as, it needs more gum arabic, or the dextrin is a lousy binder in this case), and modify as needed. Less waste that way. Once it passes any test you can devise, then it's on to 500g+ batches, or more.
PyroMan16 Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 That is a lot of money!!!! Hopefully you don`t get bored of his stuff in a couple months.
stug161 Posted August 21, 2009 Author Posted August 21, 2009 Well with the help of this board, and all the great people on it, and sites like pyro guide, and of course, Youtube, I have a good system. I can either find a formula or effect, then find videos of people making/testing it. Then study everything about it. Then start with a small batch. Sadly my ball mill did not ship until a day after I ordered it, so it will be delivered to my work on saturday.. And nobody will be there to get it.. But I have plenty of thing to be playing with in the mean time. My order came in with my Mg/Al varieties, and my hexamine.. Blues here I come!! Thanks again everyone!! Robert
Ericz Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 Damn , just like iam thinking of me in the future But i wouldnt buy saran or hexamine Very nice collection , iam also more someone who buys then builds xD
derekroolz Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 German Dark Aluminum ECKART 5413 H Super 2Lb OBRON 1200 mesh Aluminum 1 Lb-325 Atomized Spherical Aluminum 1 LbMagnesium Turnings 1 LbGranular Magnesium -80 +200 1 LbGranular Magnesium -20 +40 1 Lb Mg/Al -600 1 LbCast Turnings Various -20 -40 -80 5 LbIron Filings 1 LbSulfur 4.5 LbLactose 1 LbCharcoal Airfloat 2.5 Lb KCLO4 29 LbKCLO3 4 LbKNO3 4 LbNaNO3 1 LbNH4CLO4 1 LbBaNO3 3 LbSrNO3 2.5 Lb SrCO3 1 LbBaSO4 1 LbCuO 1 LbFe2O3 1 LbNH4CL3 1 Lb Sodium Benzoate 1 LbBlue Smoke Mix .5 LbRed Gem 1 LbDextrin 1 LbPVC 1 LbParlon 1 Lb ........... (On order) NH4 CLO4 2 LbMg/Al -100 +200 1 LbMg/Al -30 +60 1 LbAluminum Bright Flake Tails 1 Lb-325 Atomized Spherical Aluminym 5 LbHexamine 1 Lb Saran 1 Lb CuCO3 1LbHexachloroethane 1 Lb Also, 300 feet visce, 300 feet chinese 2mm and 3mm 100 super fast paper fuse 200 feet flying fish Various tubes and shells(like 400) Two digital scales, mortar tubes, Ball mill, Tons of tupperware and plastic containers, lots of screens in many mesh, about 15 dowel rods, rolls of kraft paper, all the alcohols and acetone and ping pong balls, spoons, cups, bowls plastic tubes, drying sheets, So much more I cant think of. I have been into this since I was like 10. Finally I have the ability to have the materials and learn from the ground up! there's just one thing i think you might be missing...fire proof containers to put all the stuff in.
dagabu Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 "order some potassium dichromate for coating your magnesium" Respirator and gloves, total body coverage, contact dermatitis, carcinogenic and it is very low on the fatal amounts for ingestion. Looks for Sweds thread on parlon. There may be some better coatings but much more research needs to be done first. Dave
Klaaskroegbaas Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 That is a very nice collection! But i don't think you bought NH4Cl3, It's probably NH4Cl
stug161 Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 Thanks for that correction. I know it was a bit under performance in the smoke category. Once winter gets here I will have more time to work with my supplies. Thanks everyone! Robert
Seymour Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 Titanium is an orgasmic metal that you are missing. Also on the chemical front, you have gon straight to the fancy stuff, and hav skipped the charcoal. I know you have commercial airfloat, but if you are going to have Ammonium perchlorate blues, surely you want some better charcoal for streamers to go with it? I like a chemical list to have at least five different charcoals.
Jumboshrmp Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) 29 pounds of KCL04? Why so much more of that than anything else? I agree that it's important to close containers before testing even the smallest amount. When I made my first batch of BP meal, good thing it was horribly slow.Somehow a half spoonful ignited about 150 grams of it in my open container about 5 feet away.It was a stupid mistake, and I am much more careful now. I leave anything I'm not testing closed up, inside. If my BP was good back then, my mistake would most likely have had much worse consequences. It took about 3 seconds for all of it to burn, and after that the plastic container it was in no longer existed (it melted instantly, it didn't blow up) Edited September 22, 2009 by Jumboshrmp
Ericz Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Just make ur compo's put evrything away , clean up , test it outside ??? why the hell inside ? even if u got the best stuff to do it inside still u better do it outside ??:S:SEven working with C i do outside else my workshop is black after a few TT batches -.-..Hate C
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