popi1955 Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 name: Popi's Aluminum (simple) (bright) Silver Tail star type:white/silver star with flashing tail creator: popi1955 composition:Parts by wight only!KNO3 - 5Aluminum 400+ mesh (realy fine powder) - 4Aluminum flakes 10-16 mesh - 2Dextrin (or some other binder) - 0.5 - 1 (i use about 0.7) getting these stars well is a bit hardthe method is to take 1\10 of all the amount u wone make and mix it in a separate cupthen adding the rest of the mixture untill getting the thickness that is needed here is a link to a video of the stars (sorry about the lame camera and my english) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XZ90Ywtd2w
Ventsi Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 Very cool formula!It seems that the tail gets richer towards the end Do you think i could sub the -400 mesh with 100-325 Al its all ive got right now.Or maybe put in some Charcoal to sub the fine Al.
swervedriver Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 wow, that's a ton of dextrin! They look great! I'll try a batch, I'll be adding some boric acid too.
popi1955 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) thx : )first, yea i think 100-325 will work, i havent tryed, i gut aluminum at 5-15 micron, it sounds good but dam its not, its horrible! dirty like potassium permanganate (less then him, but yet its a mess)now, i havent tryed it with smaller amounts of dextrin since my suckish scale is at 1 gram accuracy, and i dident wone make amount of 100 gram (waste of aluminum)and about the boric acid, i dont thing u need it, this mixture has no sulfur, and it had lot more fuel then the oxidizer so i dont think its senetive one, but why taking risks?? try it, tell me if its having any influence on the stars Edited April 14, 2009 by popi1955
50AE Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Nice looking ! What should be the kind of aluminium ? Spherical, flake or granular ?
Ericz Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 I think that flake alu wil burn lots of faster then spherial. Well thats what i find out last week.
50AE Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Because my spherical -400 mesh will hardly light even with KClO4. That's why I think it's flake.
popi1955 Posted April 15, 2009 Author Posted April 15, 2009 i dont know what aluminum i have : ( i bought it from a paint store for the name "Aluminum 1200" 1200 isent the mesh number, its the color, but exept my aluminum gets everything dirty it works great, my stars light realy easily
Yankie Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 i dont know what aluminum i have : ( i bought it from a paint store for the name "Aluminum 1200" 1200 isent the mesh number, its the color, but exept my aluminum gets everything dirty it works great, my stars light realy easily It would probably be 325 mesh bright flake Al... Is it a brilliant bright silver, especially when it gets on things?
popi1955 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) yeait dyes everything in silver, but iv seen 300 mesh (school laboratory) my aluminum is finer Edited April 18, 2009 by popi1955
pyrogeorge Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 It would probably be 325 mesh bright flake Al... Is it a brilliant bright silver, especially when it gets on things?99% is 325 mesh flake al.Also I bought it from art store and the mesh is 325.it is bright al,like a pigment.
Seymour Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Because my spherical -400 mesh will hardly light even with KClO4. That's why I think it's flake. I'm a bit confused. Flake is the easiest to light, next is granular, and the hardest to light is spherical. While Flash Aluminium (nano sized atomised, dark flake ect) ignite easily with Potassium perchlorate, and some of the less fine flakes like bright flake light fairly easily, all other Aluminiums will be very hard to light mixed with just Potassium perchlorate. The addition of some Black powder, or an organic fuel like Red gum will make it much easier to light. So, while -400 mesh is quite fine, if it is spherical, I am not even slightly surprised that you find it hard to light with Potassium perchlorate. What you are experiencing is normal, and I see no reason that it would be flake. and about the boric acid, i dont thing u need it, this mixture has no sulfur, and it had lot more fuel then the oxidizer so i dont think its senetive one, but why taking risks?? try it, tell me if its having any influence on the stars Boric acid is to prevent or reduce the corrosion of Aluminium by nitrates. However as your experience shows, it does not always react without boric acid. However if the mix heats up and smells of Ammonia, this is when you know that you should have added the Boric acid! How fast do your stars burn?
popi1955 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Posted April 19, 2009 they burrn great. not too fast and not too slow
50AE Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) I'm a bit confused. Flake is the easiest to light, next is granular, and the hardest to light is spherical. While Flash Aluminium (nano sized atomised, dark flake ect) ignite easily with Potassium perchlorate, and some of the less fine flakes like bright flake light fairly easily, all other Aluminiums will be very hard to light mixed with just Potassium perchlorate. The addition of some Black powder, or an organic fuel like Red gum will make it much easier to light. So, while -400 mesh is quite fine, if it is spherical, I am not even slightly surprised that you find it hard to light with Potassium perchlorate. What you are experiencing is normal, and I see no reason that it would be flake. Because my spherical -400 mesh will hardly light even with KClO4. That's why I think it's flake. The mistake is mine, the underlined sentence speaks about the aluminium of the star comp, not mine. Mine is spherical. Edited April 20, 2009 by 50AE
Ralph Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 hi sorry for bringing up an old topic but could you repost the video (youtube says it has been removed by user) thanks
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