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I hear lockstep marching.... "What will we be doin' today? Crackin' down the Obama way"... two three four...

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Scary looking guy! o_O

 

Damn, but he had a stash though, 175 rockets!

 

I hardly see that they could charge him with much more than manufacturing. He didn't seem to be causing any disturbances.

 

Well, then there's the random hand grenade. And munitions? Big whoop, the guy has some ammo laying around.

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I'm sorry but his wife is retarted! How can your relationship with your wife be so bad that she'll actually report to the police that you're making rockets?
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It's more common than you might think, at least the threat to do so.
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Yupp, my ex did but they didn't take her seriously enough to check it out. To bad that I got rid of my stuff since I got scared they would come knocking.
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Never marry til she has made BP and stars and produced shells!
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Scary looking guy! o_O

 

Damn, but he had a stash though, 175 rockets!

 

I hardly see that they could charge him with much more than manufacturing. He didn't seem to be causing any disturbances.

 

Well, then there's the random hand grenade. And munitions? Big whoop, the guy has some ammo laying around.

 

I'm with you in the respect that it's difficult to understand why he was booked with the explosives manufacturing charge based on that report alone. Whenever I see one of these stories, I always seem to have more questions after reading it.

 

Here's link to another news site that has some additional information on this particular story....

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0309/605456.html. It still leaves a lot of unanswered questions, but it starts to place the original story in some perspective.

 

HammerStar

  • 3 weeks later...
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It's more common than you might think, at least the threat to do so.

 

Easy Fix: Just write HER name on every rocket you build! :)

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Do you really trust this guy:

 

http://www.rocketryplanet.com/images/content/2792/1a.jpg

 

with "175 homemade rockets, a hand grenade and assorted munitions"? I don't. Bad news for pyros but I am glad he got put away. Seriously, a hand grenade?!?

 

Richtee, Obama doesn't want to take your guns, rights and property and make a Marxist nation. Be realistic.

  • 2 months later...
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Never marry til she has made BP and stars and produced shells!

 

 

HAHA, what a perfect first date

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crazyboy, what dream world are you living in?
  • 3 weeks later...
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crazyboy, what dream world are you living in?

 

Its all good with me, got the wife a membership with our pyro group, she ematches and helps clean up and shes going to her first PGI convention to build 6" shells for women, her new friend teaches the class!

 

Dave

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Richtee, Obama doesn't want to take your guns, rights and property and make a Marxist nation. Be realistic.

 

Really, Crazyboy? then what type of leader wants Universal healthcare and is pushing the largest tax increase in american history? Or are you being sarcastic?

Edited by zwdog922
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I think he was being sarcastic.
  • 1 month later...
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I'm not married , but I thought your spouse could not testifly against you or be a witness against you. Sorta like your lawyer and client privliege.
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i think she just wanted to get rid of the stuff to get to keep him safe, but then again they could have had "issues". lol but yeah its pretty messed up.
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I'm not married , but I thought your spouse could not testifly against you or be a witness against you. Sorta like your lawyer and client privliege.

 

 

Your wife can't be forced to testify against you but that doesn't mean she can't do it by own free will.

  • 1 month later...
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Really, Crazyboy? then what type of leader wants Universal healthcare and is pushing the largest tax increase in american history? Or are you being sarcastic?

 

maybe you should check your facts...the largest tax increase in history was in the 1940's and amounted to nearly 5% of GDP...reagans tax increase in the 80's was just under 2%, clintons was UNDER 1% of GDP, and bush's was around clintons, although, bush's tax cuts are slated to amount to 2% of GDP when all the smoke clears.

 

and, not that im supporting or decrying any political party or leader, i do have to contest, that i've never had an easier time finding chemicals and pyro supplies, along with legislation falling in the favor of rocketry in general, since mr. obama has taken over the reigns. that's a good thing.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Do you really trust this guy:

 

http://www.rocketryplanet.com/images/content/2792/1a.jpg

 

You can't really judge somebody based on whether they have a lazy eye or not. He looks like he just woke up, which would make sense, because police usually execute arrest warrants in the middle of the night when the suspect is most likely to be home. As far as live grenades go, well, you’ll never find me with one because that would be a bit ridiculous, but I don’t know that I care if this guy has one on his own property. I don’t know, I don’t feel threatened by this at all. I think hyper-paranoid people are more scary than this guy.

  • 1 month later...
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I've heard of several people getting arrested for old, demil pineapple grenades. I've seen them for sale at flea markets, airshows etc, and they're perfectly legal to own. The primers have been discharged and the fuses removed from the wells, plus big holes have drilled in the bottoms, to minimize containment. These old WWII devices didn't even have HEs in them. Just EC blank powder, since examples with TNT were fragmenting too small, tending to just piss off the recipient.

 

Cops and newsies, especially the latter, are incredibly ignorant of anything having to do with weapons, particularly explosives. Cops have this chunk of metal getting in the way that they have to qualify on to a minimum standard once or twice a year, and that's pretty much the extent of their experience with weaponry. (There are exceptions, of course.)

 

"Journalists" are just pathetic. With the exception of writing, they truly don't know shit about much of anything. I know this from firsthand experience. Out of the dozens I've known, maybe two or three could handle a firearm without blowing their foot off.

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Yafmot, 'EC blank powder' is still an HE. Way back in the day nitrostarch was used as the filler. I am unsure if EC powder was nitrostarch or nitrocellulose, but it was a smokeless powder of one kind or another. A quick search turned up that it was manufactured by Hercules.

 

All that is really besides the point, as a live grenade is a live grenade regardless of what it's filled with. RDX or rcandy, both are deadly when throwing cast iron.

 

I also tend to disagree that police are ignorant regarding weapons and explosives. They are less informed certainly than one who revolves their life around the subject, but are far more informed than the average suburbanite. I would go so far to say that the vast majority of civilians doesn't know half as much about explosives and weapons as the police, so when you complain about police ignorance regarding such things it makes you look like a hillbilly bomber to the even less informed majority.

 

Don't wine about the police, worry about the common sense of the general public that is constantly eroding away. It is the root of all the attacks on freedom over the years from all levels of government. It's no single man's fault, it is the general population. The police are average people as pissed at the situation we're in as the rest of us.

Edited by NightHawkInLight
  • 1 month later...
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One of the more basic problems is that commentary on an issue presented in the newspaper is difficult. Remember the line "if it bleeds, it leads"? We really don't know the specific facts of this case or many others. 175 rockets is a stupid thing to have lying around (IMO) however we really don't know if the "grenade" was an object made for harming people of something else entirely.

 

Incomplete facts lead us to generalizations. Generally middle aged people are not the type who are active in the MAJORITY of violence with police or general public. NOW, it's darn possible that he didn't use his head when he made so many active pyrotechnics; simply from the fire danger standpoint. There is also another point that such a article scares people and that attracts readers.....scaring people is the antithesis of responsible journalism.

 

Organizations such as the PGII have made great strides working with organizations such as the BATFE in-so-far as what is permissible on a Federal level and what is appropriate on a Hobbyist level. It's sad to see that (most likely) a house-hold quarrel exacerbated a situation that could have been resolved many other ways. The point made re: Grenade look-a-likes is well taken as a "reporter" may have "blown the facts out of proportion".

A pyrotechnics hobby is like anything else IF the individual's responsibility toward his community and his personal (& families) safety is paramount.

Edited by quicksilver
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I was amazed with the overall wrongness with the arrest in the first place. It was the rockets that were central to the story but inconsequential to the charges as it is NOT illegal (federally) to make fireworks as a hobbyist. You can have 50# of black powder and he had a bag of KNO3 so the assumption is that they were black powder rockets.

 

In other coverage, he was said to have been making IEDs, that is a federal no-no.

 

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