crazyboy25 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 first of all you should know better than to mill flash or ANY pyrotechnic mixture other than gunpowder due to the risk of ignition second of all i have no knowledge of sodium chlorate but it says at the bottom of the page In the May 2006 Exploding Pants episode of MythBusters, Sodium Chlorate was used as the secret ingredient to explore the story of 1931 New Zealand farmers, such as Richard Buckley, whose trousers exploded or caught on fire, leading to a number of deaths.found that in 2 minutes. BTW saw that episode was curious as well.but i thought it was funny how they kept everything secret anyone could tell they were using ammonium nitrate and diesel to make ANFO and they were using acid to nitrate the cotton. on another note i was testing homemade fuses i compared black match with my newly created whistle and flash fuse made the exact same way as black match but substituting BP. flash fuse burnt as fast as black match but with beautiful silver sparks (really thick) whistle fuse burnt slower but hot unfortunately it went out and re lit making it unreliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeAdFX Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Hmmm.. I was wondering what kind of common (OTC) device you use for cycling water between a reservoir and a condenser. At the moment I currently use my mouth cycle water from a reservoir to the condenser. Very tiring I might add. I have seen some water pumps at harbor freight but they are mostly high volume stuff and not exactly good for my application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTRABUF Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 DeAdFX you could get one of those little water pumps for yard ponds or whatever. I got a small one for like 15 bucks at Walmart I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormanman Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 DO NOT MILL ANY TYPES OF METAL POWDERS TOGETHER WITH OXIDER(S)! Simple little rule first of all you should know better than to mill flash or ANY pyrotechnic mixture other than gunpowder due to the risk of ignition second of all i have no knowledge of sodium chlorate but it says at the bottom of the page Ok thanks its just I've never made flash and I made some of the stuff I was talking about early and it sucked out the butt. In the May 2006 Exploding Pants episode of MythBusters, Sodium Chlorate was used as the secret ingredient to explore the story of 1931 New Zealand farmers, such as Richard Buckley, whose trousers exploded or caught on fire, leading to a number of deaths. found that in 2 minutes. BTW saw that episode was curious as well.but i thought it was funny how they kept everything secret anyone could tell they were using ammonium nitrate and diesel to make ANFO and they were using acid to nitrate the cotton. crazyboy25 your saying they used AN or Sodium Chlorate b/c I didn't know AN was impacted reactive. (Sorry if I'm being difficult I guess I'm a little confused by you saying they used AN but the article say they used Sodium Chlorate.) And I got another question to get Sodium Acetate its baking soda + vinegar = Sodium Acetate... So my question is how do you extract the Sodium Acetate? Do you boil the solution? Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asilentbob Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Yup, evaporate/boil to dryness. Its really hygroscopic though, so to really get it completely dry your going to have to heat it in a porcelain pan or something for a while. That isn't always necessary though. If you were going to want to make glacial acetic acid though, you would want it as dry as possible. I'm surprised that the whistle match didn't burn fast! For cooling condensers you can just have faucet or hose water running through it or use a pump. Personally i have a little pump that was on a fish tank, i just took off the filters and stuff. Similar to this:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/disp...temnumber=45303I would recommend getting one that will last though and that you might find other uses for later on (running water jet vacuum aspirator, etc) like this:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/disp...Itemnumber=1479This:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/disp...Itemnumber=9576Or this:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/disp...temnumber=94639 Personally im thinking of upgrading my system to one of those 12V pumps... You can always control their output with electronics or through a y split with valves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyboy25 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 crazyboy25 your saying they used AN or Sodium Chlorate b/c I didn't know AN was impacted reactive. (Sorry if I'm being difficult I guess I'm a little confused by you saying they used AN but the article say they used Sodium Chlorate.) no i know the used AN and called it their period FERTILIZER they ALSO used a period HERBICIDE which according to wiki is sodium chlorate. their AN/gasoline mix wasn't friction or shock sensitive but the period herbicide (sodium chlorate) was.I'm surprised that the whistle match didn't burn fast!i know it sputtered a lot and went out and re lit. is it hygroscopic? because when i was mixing it it didn't look like a white slush but more like a brownish slush with granule and clumps of whistle in it (whistle didn't make itself uniform) i find whistle mix to be slightly waxy. and it never seems to work well when combined. funny because my whistle burns VERY fast...but then again so does my flash but it behaves differently when put on a string. BTW what is sodium acetate for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeAdFX Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Ahhh thanks you two. I shall look into this further... I find sodium salicylicate to be a good fuel in whistle. It is a lot less waxy than Sodium Benzoate. It is more expensive but it is a hell of a lot easier to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormanman Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 o i know the used AN and called it their period FERTILIZER they ALSO used a period HERBICIDE which according to wiki is sodium chlorate. their AN/gasoline mix wasn't friction or shock sensitive but the period herbicide (sodium chlorate) was.OK thanks and I'll try boiling out all the liquid next time (I tried it once and i didn't want to burn anything so that good to know thanks bob) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrohawk Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I got a question.... has anybody here ever tried to make a fire sword? Kind of like the ones they use for fire poi. Some buddies and me want to make swords that appear to be on fire so we can take pictures with them hahaha. Wanted a neat picture for my avatar..... Just wondered how to do this without ordering a Poi set. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeAdFX Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=270130374279 Wow who in the hell would pay this much money for chlorate. Man this guy is really making a killing on morons willing to pay big $$. 162.50 USD + 10 on shipping shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 that is crazy. That person could have bought 24.5 pounds at skylighter. I wish I could just smack those people. 5 people were bidding over 50$ lb, that is rediculous. So what we have rich kwels now too... what is this world coming to when people are that stupid. Do you know what would be funny is if they get the powder and it was flour... "I paid 162$ for a pound of flour". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudidotdk Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I'd love to be the seller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyboy25 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 made a fountain today was my second attempt but identical to my first anyway i think i made the nozzle too small and it blew off it looked pretty good even after the nozzle blew off but its hard to see with the glare. i will probably add charcoal nest time and make a wider nozzle because even before the nozzle blew i5t was too high and after it was too low. enjoy.BTW it was fountain #7: 70%BP30% metal (i used equal parts magnalium 310 mesh, very fine dark ekhart aluminum, granular aluminum and 325 mesh atomized aluminum.) prefire picvideo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty green flame Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Something tottaly random http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SkecPaqj3Q Ain't this the most hillarious thing you've seen in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimus Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 The video Cannibal Corpse didn't want you to see: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTRABUF Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Haha Optimus, you found that video too! My brother and I found that a few weeks ago we watch it all the time. I never thought to put it on here though, nice idea lol. I think Hammer Smashed Face is my fav. Cannibal Corpse song. And PGF, that video was just weird lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyboy25 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 what are you talking about i love sandstorm. BTW comments or ideas on my fountain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeAdFX Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I liked the little roar at the beginning before the nozzle blew off. I think you should just use a mix of magnalium and atomized aluminum. I like the lilac/sparkley effect... ok EDIT Nm.. Duh I can just measure the differences in weight nm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimus Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 This is 1/15s of me falling backwards in shock, after lighting a 30g, 1.5" Chlorate/Napathylene smoker... If it didn't detonate, it was certainly the single loudest thing I've ever made, intentionally/unintentionally. The echoes bounced off the hills for quite a while, I nearly shat my pants, and quickly cleared the firing site even though I had more stuff I was planning to shoot. Anyone had a similar experience, or some tips on how to actually get a Nap smoke pot to work without scaring me shitless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyboy25 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I liked the little roar at the beginning before the nozzle blew off. I think you should just use a mix of magnalium and atomized aluminum. I like the lilac/sparkley effect... ok i did that and used a slightly bigger hole it blew off again but at least it took longer than last time no real difference in sparks will try again with bigger hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTRABUF Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Quick question- can you make stars with lance formulas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentech Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Quick question- can you make stars with lance formulas? I think they would tend to be too slow burning. Lances are intended to last for a minute or more in many cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyboy25 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 whew...close call i lit 2 grams of 50:50 KCLO4/MgAl flash a while ago (not bad if i may say so myself) and seconds later three firetrucks went by they looked straight at me but kept going...almost gave me a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 What type of rubber glove do you guy think would protect against HNO3, I was wearing latex and the acid got though the rubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeAdFX Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 What type of rubber glove do you guy think would protect against HNO3, I was wearing latex and the acid got though the rubber Use nitrile gloves. The throw away one time use ones work well. If you cannot find nitrile I do not know what will be an acceptable replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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