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Its quite weird I was searching for ages last night to find some sort of mark on the ground or on a tree but theres nothing. I expect it was because electrons moved upwards to meet the electrons that were coming downwards, so they met mid air leaving little noticable trace.

If that was true you would have a mark, because if protons go upwards you have a reduction in mass somewhere and that will show as "burning".

 

Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

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Well, All I can say is that I haven't been able to find one as yet. There might be one on a tree but I haven't got round to doing a full search as its raining alot here still.

Of course your right about the protons meeting the electrons (another one of my stupid moments before) + is attracted to - charges.

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I've been gone a couple weeks, I was on a cruise. It was sweet, we went to the Virgin Islands. My best friend and I met lots of cool people, we stayed up till like 2 every night playing Texas Hold'em. It was awesome. I missed the forum though, and now I have lots of posts to read.
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just come back from the mink hunt, nothing, again. Doesn't matter though, its nice to walk a few miles along by the river. It's annoying the pack also hunt on week days, and i can't come because i'm at school. And on monday they actually killed in sthis place called tinkleton, and there also going on tuesday. They killed a bitch on the river but there is also a dog on their.
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hmm I just discovered a fairly good prime comp for perchlorate comps...

 

 

KCLO4 60%

Charcoal 20%

Dark aluminum* 15%

Copper (II) Oxide 5%

Shellac bullseye +.5-1.5 spoonfull (~3-10mL)

 

 

*I do not believe less reactive aluminums like atomized or -325 flake will work as well but its worth a try...

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Mark, Kyle won't be too happy about that. It's people like you who ruins hard work and hours to get people to the site. Mumbles, I think it would be a good idea to delete the link!
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Mark,

 

In addition to being a pretty shitty thing to do to a fellow high-quality pyro site (getting rare these days), your pirating of all that content seems incredibly short-sighted...The APCforum is listed in the links section at Passfire.

 

Congratulations on your future banning from both APC and Passfire.

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Fireworks "Safety" Video

 

Tired of the overblown, ridiculous "safety" commercials every year around the 4th of July ?

 

Why Fireworks Are Dangerous

well if your salute isn't capable of blowing off a couple of your fingers it isnt worth making.

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Guest Mark_the_pyro
K sorry. I have sympathy, and some degree of respect for him, but I think it is wrong to give knowledge a price.
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Your sharing the info with complete noobs... lots of them... how many of them will honestly use the info responsibly? Come the fuck on man! Your no better than the fool who started the ACB!
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I'm guessing the link was changed to that MS paint pic?
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i got 6 lbs of dry ice...free at ralphs (they didn't charge me) it makes great ice cream (fizzy and rich) and powdered dry ice makes the best pop rocks.
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Passfire is all about FIREWORKS. Here we are mostly about FIREWORKS. RogueSci is for all practical purposes about EXPLOSIVES and WEAPONS. Don't get me wrong, i love RS... or well the more intelligent members ingenuity, knowledge, and experience... But, seriously... not the best place to be sending noobs.

 

Have you ever wondered what would happen if you gave even something so tame as a standard smoke bomb recipe to an anarchistic teen? No biggie right? Perhaps you didn't know he was anarchistic... Perhaps you had no idea that he decided to make several very large smokers to use during some event like looting in Louisiana... Perhaps he used them for revenge... Throwing lit ones into peoples cars or homes... Perhaps he used them to get out of school... Or worse... Now imagine that instead of smoke mix you told him all about the synthesis of (insert OTC synth-able HE here)...

 

Everyone is a potential dumb-ass. If your going to share, share with people that you have talked with enough to know that they are going to use the info responsibly. Remember that.

 

 

Edit: And we wouldn't have to deal with anywhere near this many worms and computer virii if there were not "free virus maker" type software all out there... which got hastily spread in the same manner that the ACB was spread and that you are trying to spread this Passfire info...

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Yes, but lets think about this for a moment. Even an idiot knows he can find x bomb making recipes in a matter of seconds via google. Yes, there is ACB style crap floating all around the internet, and people are using it. So what is wrong with balancing that, by at least putting some good material on there in return? Yes, there are idiots everywhere. Regardless of anything, they will do what they want to do, whether it be fireworks, or bombs. So everyone has a choice here. You can either do nothing, and have them continuing to use ACB style crap and having them continue to add bad statistics to the hobby, or you can easily supply the masses on demonoid with a lot more professional of a document, or websites, in that case, they most likely will do it "right", and not add more damaging statistics to the hobby we love. So yes, if you think about this topic from the point of one person, yes it will cost him. But if you look beyond that at the bigger picture, this is very much helping.
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Yes, but lets think about this for a moment....
People intent on following kewl books would skim the literature and see that it was too difficult to understand, it didn't contain any e-z-bomb recipes, they'd ignore the safety precautions and continue following their crap books. Anyone seriously interested in the art of pyrotechny will find the information with a more thorough search.

 

So what is wrong with balancing that, by at least putting some good material on there in return?
That is what this forum is doing, as well as all the other hobby fireworks sites. Trying to force the information on them is pointless, it is like attempting to be the voice of reason on totse. For every person saying permanganate flash is unsafe, there will be ten others proclaiming that they use it all the time and how easy it is to make.

 

You're more than welcome to attempt to educate them, but I still think it is a waste of time. You can't teach people who're unwilling to learn.

 

 

Edit: Sorry if I came off a bit pessimistic, I do indeed appreciate the attempts made to direct people away from kewl behavior. While you may not be able to change the kewl bomber's minds, providing reputable information and sites may prevent more people from subscribing to the stupidy of the anarchist cookbook.

 

 

Now for a random question: I've seen compositions that call for "Aluminum - Stamped or rolled." I've searched and haven't found any definitive answer of what variety aluminum this refers to. I would presume it to be a flake Al. Anyone have a better explanation?

Edit:

Tom Perigrin:Stamped aluminum is made by placing aluminum in a hard mortar, and using a mortar to stamp it flatter and flatter.

An inert oil is added to prevent the aluminum from sticking to itself as new surfaces are exposed, and to reduce oxidation.

This would indicate that stamped aluminum refers to coated flake aluminum. I have used -325 mesh stearin coated flake to great sucess in these compositions.
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This isn't a huge attempt for me to educate them. When I first started pyrotechnics a few years ago, I had no idea where to start. This simply is giving them another choice, along with references to high reputation sites, such as this one. This is on a site that gets tons of publicity, and all of the tutorials I supplied are nowhere near stuff you can get at a 10 min hardware store trip. So, people either give up right there, or they use this GOOD information. Am I helping? Maybe, hopefully yes. Am I hurting anything or anyone by doing so? No.
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Now for a random question: I've seen compositions that call for "Aluminum - Stamped or rolled." I've searched and haven't found any definitive explanation of what variety aluminum this refers to. I would presume it to be a flake Al.  Anyone have a better explanation?

I am pretty sure that is in reference to the procedure to make flake aluminum, so yes it would be flake.

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This is why the massive 2+ Gb Chemistry torrent made in TotseBB by the more intelligent members was only shared with people who could handle it responsibly.

 

You guys always talk like totse is crap... Tis true that the pyrotechnic/chemistry forum shares members with the other forums on the site... and has many many many noobs that just make a topic or two before passing on... but many of the vets know their shit. I'm probably only in the top 10 most intellegent members there.

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You guys always talk like totse is crap
Yes. Totse, rotteneggs, whatever. I do not mean to insult you or any other intelligent member. I was merely using totse as an example, I have seen the lack of moderation and forums rife with "how i maek bombz" posts.

 

You'll forgive me for not thinking too highly of totse, for when I go to their site I am greeted with this:

10 Great High Explosive Mixtures
 Ten great high explosive mixtures that you can make at home.
A Balloon Bombing	by Ovidio
 Bomb for fun with balloons. The most simplest easy way to have fun with fire making large explosions! Stuff that you can easily buy at your local Wal-Mart.
A Guide for Explosion and Bombing Scene Investigation	by NIJ
 Consistent collection of quality evidence in bombing cases will result in more successful investigations and prosecutions of bombing cases. While this Guide can be useful to agencies in developing their own procedures, the procedures included here may not be deemed applicable in every circumstance or jurisdiction, nor are they intended to be all-inclusive.
A Powerful Pipe Bomb	by joem
 This is a quite powerful pipe bomb, similar to the CO2 cartridge and powder idea.
A Reliable Guide to Flash Powder	by Infallible Prodigy
 A short, but reliable guide to the making of flash powder, a fast burning low explosive used often in exploding fireworks to produce a loud report. Includes Safety, Mixing, Precursors and Formulas.
Acetone Peroxide	by 30-06
 Here is a faily detailed synth to make Acetone Peroxide (AP). Note this is a high explosive and should NOT be made by any inexperienced people.
Acetone Peroxide Detonators	by Phoenix
 Acetone peroxide is a primary explosive that can be made from hair bleach (hydrogen peroxide), acetone, and sulfuric acid. This explosive is to be used in the fabrication of detonators.
Amatol
 Amatol production is an excellent way of stretching an explosives supply, getting more bang for your buck, as it were. It is not as safe to make as some other high explosives since it uses molten TNT (very shock-sensitive).
Ammonium Nitrate          Bacon Smoke Bomb	by S-Jiggy
 Want Breakfast and a smoke bomb? This is for you!

 

And their "backyard ballistics" does not look much better. If they have a private or moderated forum which I do not see, I apologize.

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