Richtee Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 Ok going out on a limb here... I have used this on several different comp stars, but admittedly none that are known to take a torch to light. It is based on the poly glue effect, brought to my attention by one illustrious member- Swede. The propensity of this glue sticking to ANYTHING made the prime idea pop into my head. But as an alternative to sulfur sensitive compounds, the fine BP COULD possibly be dropped, and perhaps a sawdust added. I have not tested that yet. The BP is there basically for "roughness" Sticky Assed Prime 7 KPerc2 Poly glue1 Fine dark Al+ 2 20 to 30- ish mesh BP Bind with a thin NC/acetone mixture. Use enough to make a medium slurry. This stuff will STAY on the stars! If it comes off..it's the stars' sturcture that broke, not the prime! I am VERY interested in any testing you folks could do on this. I'm nowhere near as accomplished as most here, so any improvements or chemical incompatabilities are MOST welcome!
Richtee Posted November 29, 2008 Author Posted November 29, 2008 Hmmm how much issue IS there with the small amount of Al and the BP in this?? Not too much I assume, or at least no one has pointed this out to me...
elstevo Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) doubt there would be much of an issue, i would just be worried about the potential Cyanide formed from the Poly Glue that was said in Swedes topic about making stars with Poly Glue. Everyone seems to be to afraid of that possible smell of Almonds. Edited December 4, 2008 by elstevo
Richtee Posted December 4, 2008 Author Posted December 4, 2008 doubt there would be much of an issue, i would just be worried about the potential Cyanide formed from the Poly Glue that was said in Swedes topic about making stars with Poly Glue. Everyone seems to be to afraid of that possible smell of Almonds. Never got a whiff. I have used it for stars and this prime, and sealing time fuse in shells, etc. Apparently an unfounded concern.
FREAKYDUTCHMEN Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 How would you prime a vieuw thousant of stars with this prime?It takes me 10 minutes to coat 10.000 stars with fencepostprime.
Richtee Posted December 4, 2008 Author Posted December 4, 2008 How would you prime a vieuw thousant of stars with this prime?It takes me 10 minutes to coat 10.000 stars with fencepostprime. LOL... a few thousand? Never made that many! You speak of a roller I suppose... I don't have one as of yet. I suspect you'd need to make a little thiner slurry, and drizzle it over the rolling stars. Or maybe mix the dry components, and then drizzle in the poly/NC into the roller? Might not be suited for rolling- Having never used one, I'm not sure...sorry. Either way - you'd have to clean the bowl out immediately with an acetone damped rag.
Richtee Posted December 4, 2008 Author Posted December 4, 2008 Or maybe mix the dry components, and then drizzle in the poly/NC into the roller? Yanno, upon thinking a bit more, I guess the dry mix is pretty much a weak flash/BP mix. Prolly not a good thing to toss into a roller... but you could add the Al to the slurry, and the perc/BP to the bowl dry I suppose...
Mumbles Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 To prime a large number of these you'd likely be using a commercial paint sprayer and dusting the BP over the top. Cleanup would be a bitch though. The al is fine enough to pass the nozzle, and the perc would probably have to be milled to be sure.
FrankRizzo Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Sticky assed indeed... It's tough enough to clean NC lacquer off a star roller never mind glue. ;-)
Mumbles Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 I'd suggest burning it off after an amount of buildup. Obviously this requires a metal barrel.
Pretty green flame Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Probably the best use for this would be priming comets, something like a hard to light silver streamer formula, insted of a red thermite prime as shimizu suggests in some cases. I would not dare put this stuff in my plastic star roller, would probably melt a hole in it
Richtee Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 Probably the best use for this would be priming comets, something like a hard to light silver streamer formula, insted of a red thermite prime as shimizu suggests in some cases. I would not dare put this stuff in my plastic star roller, would probably melt a hole in it Depends on the plastic type... polyacrylic? or some such... the stuff they make the bottle for the glue from... you can peel the dried glue off, and it seems impervious to the acetone as well.
Richtee Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 I guess while I'm priming, I also did some of the Hardt's #1 in the SAP... Since I bound them with NC, there's a little "melting" apparent in the pumped plugs but it should not affect performance. http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr72/esalink/100_8214.jpg
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