andyboy Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 Terrorist chip implant program THE PATRIOT MICRO CHIP...... For particularly stubborn examples there is always the Mega chip set .950 JDJ:
TheSidewinder Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Good god, what a monster of a shell. Now *that* one would be painless....
qwezxc12 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Well the .50BMG 'chipset' may have a slightly smaller die size that the .950, but I daresay it operates at a higher fps... also has the advantage of task specific programming: FMJ, Spotter-Tracer, AP, API, and my fav APIT. I'd love some Raufoss Mk.211
FrankRizzo Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Righto cunts, I am about to lay some ammo disection knowledge on you all, just because I can. That and some of you might learn something. Who the fuck are you calling a cunt? Might be beneficial if you actually told us the caliber/brand/lot no. of the ammo as well.
WarezWally Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Dont get offended, its an informal greeting Looks like 7.62x54R (rimmed, and what else would come in spam cans>)
Swede Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 In line with the Australia crime topic. I did a research project for my history class freshman year of high school. I looked closely at Australian due to them having some cut off point in which guns across the nation were banned. I remember an official line graph on the gov's stats site showed practically no change in the crime rates slow decline before/after the ban. btw, the email thing with all the stats on the previous page is kind of dis-proved here:http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp So the crime rate did NOT go down after all the guns were confiscated and melted? That sort of proves our point. The presence of firearms does not promote crime.
qwezxc12 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Looks like 7.62x54R (rimmed, and what else would come in spam cans>) Definitely 7.62x54R; case length spec is 53.72mm. Got a bunch of ChiCom, Rus and misc eastern bloc stuff for my Mosin-Nagant B-barrel 91/30...as much as I like lugging this particular cannon to the range, I have to wonder how the hell Vasily Zaytsev hit anything with his
WarezWally Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Definitely 7.62x54R; case length spec is 53.72mm. Got a bunch of ChiCom, Rus and misc eastern bloc stuff for my Mosin-Nagant B-barrel 91/30...as much as I like lugging this particular cannon to the range, I have to wonder how the hell Vasily Zaytsev hit anything with his This guy seems to have no trouble
hst45 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Definitely 7.62x54R; case length spec is 53.72mm. Got a bunch of ChiCom, Rus and misc eastern bloc stuff for my Mosin-Nagant B-barrel 91/30...as much as I like lugging this particular cannon to the range, I have to wonder how the hell Vasily Zaytsev hit anything with his Zaytsev versus Koenig.....Classic. Esoteric, but classic. (Gun-guys grin, chem. majors scratch their heads.)
Mumbles Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 I can't imagine you're talking about this: http://www.koenig.de/produkte/koenigpilsener/ I am aware of the supposed sniper battle though.
qwezxc12 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 This guy seems to have no trouble http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2M1hC4c0tc...re=channel_page Well...props to him. Especially if that's an original 3.5x P/U scope. I've shot 8" groups at 600m with my Remington LTR (HS Precision Kevlar stock and 5 rnd mag, TPS 0MOA 1-piece base and 30mm rings, 10x fixed Super Sniper scope, shooting 168gr Black Hills Red box or Federal Gold Medal Match) and an 18" gong is TINY out there. That's a modern rig that can turn 5/8" - 3/4" 5-shot groups at 100m. He's ringing 3 out of 5 at 1000yds with a 60 year old battle rifle, through a 3.5x scope ...and he's loading a 200gr bullet. Wow. I'll repeat...Wow.
Mephistos Minion Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) My bad on the cunts thing. I am Australian, and its what we often refer to eachother as. The ammo is 7.62x54R Albanian, 1980's vintage. I ripped the post from one on Surplus Rifle, and missed the first paragraph when I copied it over to here. I will amend that. Once again to you yanks, sorry bout the cunt thing, you will learn in time. On the Mosin Nagants, I have a 1941 Izzy, at 300 yards, with open sights, standard heavy trigger, and the above surplus ammo, I can hit a coke bottle (1.25 litre) at 328 metres (measured with milspec laser range finder). I have just bought a repro PU scope (made with modern optics so the entire FOV moves with the zero, instead of the reticle). I have also installed a huber concepts trigger. Ordering a milled steel mount, and knocking it together when I get back home after deployment in this shit hole. I reckon I'll be taking out Coke Bottle Charlie at 500m easy. EDIT: 300 posts, fuck me at took me nearly 3 years. Edited January 20, 2009 by Mephistos Minion
Mephistos Minion Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 I couldn't find the edit button... Does that disappear after a day now? I deleted and re did it though, American friendly (I didn't refer to you all as cunts this time... oops) I also included what the ammo is. Righto... Fellas(<- USA friendly)... Here is some 1980's albanian surplus 7.62x54R ammo, that had some bad reviews, so I cut some up to see how consistant it was: Weighing was done with an RCBS Charge Master: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00698.jpg I took ten rounds of it from one of my cans and pulled the bullets with an RCBS .30 cal puller, in my 1970's press from dad, with a shell holder I made myself, as the one on there was too small, and finding the shell holders for this old beast is hard: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00697.jpg The powder is extruded pellet form, seen here on the chargemaster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00696.jpg The bullets are FMJ boat tails, average weight of 148.28 grains: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00695.jpg The cases are classic dirty, greasy, and rough, average weight 162.12 grains http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00694.jpg I measured the cases with a measuremax digital caliper: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00700.jpg Case length variance was: 0.61mm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00701.jpg Rim Diametre variance was: 0.21mm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00702.jpg Bullet length variance was: 0.31mm, with a Diametre variance of 0.01mm I have done a graph of all the results here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/762x54RCharts.jpg A closer look at the bullets: I used a hacksaw to cut around the crimp line, and then melted out the lead with a blowtorch. The jacket is a soft copper coated steel, with a steel core: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00693.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/DSC00692.jpg I forgot to do OAL of the rounds unfortunately, as I was eager to try out the home made shell holder against the force of the bullet puller (it held up fine). As we can see from the results, bullet diametre and powder weight are actually very consistant, unfortunately the bullet weight is not, and the cases are fairly varied in weight and dimensions. I have shot about 100rnds of this stuff with no problems, so it really isnt that bad, and pretty cheap. Hope you all enjoyed.
Richtee Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) He's ringing 3 out of 5 at 1000yds with a 60 year old battle rifle, through a 3.5x scope ...and he's loading a 200gr bullet. Wow. I'll repeat...Wow. The 32 foot bullet drop alone is impressive. "See that cloud? Aim at it!" On edit: Hmm 32 foot drop..and he states a 1.5 second delay to impact. Ring any bells? Might his time be long by half a second? Man..I need sleep. Edited January 20, 2009 by Richtee
WarezWally Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) That's amazing, wonder how much work he puts into his rifles? The action on his Lee Enfield mk4 . Edited January 20, 2009 by WarezWally
Richtee Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 That's amazing, wonder how much work he puts into his rifles? The action on his Lee Enfield mk4 . Man, yer right. I'm sure there's a little smithing going on there. I have an old Springfield 30-06 sporterized bolt action, and that thing jumps almost as hard opening the flippin' bolt. You have to give some credit to experience as well, of course.
Miech Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 <snip>If you look closely you can actually see the bullet fly (left and above the target). Still an impressive distance to hit a thing with such an old rifle. Where I live you are pretty much limited to air rifles if you want to shoot outdoors.
qwezxc12 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Hmm 32 foot drop..and he states a 1.5 second delay to impact. Ring any bells? Might his time be long by half a second? Man..I need sleep. I think if you had a 0yard Zero, bullet drop would = 32ft/s2, but with a rifle zero of 100yds (or meters) and greater, you're 'lobbing' the round. The bullet goes up before it starts to fall past the height of the muzzle. A quick thumbnail calculation:200gr boat-tail (BC of .5) @ 2550fps MV, 2" sight height, 100yd zeroI guessed at the BC - might be lower for a match bullet, and I have no idea what MV he's getting or what chamber pressure he's playing with pushing that 200gr...he may be certifiably nuts or conservative. Based on the above assumptions: Bullet drop @ 1000yds = 394.8" (32.8')Time to Target = 1.68sec
Richtee Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Bullet drop @ 1000yds = 394.8" (32.8')Time to Target = 1.68sec Thank you. See..I DID need sleep! ;{)
qwezxc12 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Got to have a little range time yesterday...on the clock, no less. Some engineers are working on a defense project for small scale radar to be used for small arms fire interdiction and they were ready for some field testing. Now, these guys know most of what there is to know about RF beam steering and inferential calculations, but I believe they all got their information on firearms from watching Elmer Fudd go after Bugs on Saturday mornings. I was RSO and provided several NATO caliber 'test platforms'...It's very rewarding to buy .50BMG on my Business Amex card Here's a few pics:
TheSidewinder Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Why you lucky bastard! Umm.... is the rifle in that second pic a "leftie"?
qwezxc12 Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 It looks like a "tip up" .50 BMG! Nope...it's a bolt action. See this post from previous page: 50BMG pic Umm.... is the rifle in that second pic a "leftie"? Side, It is a lefty (because I'm a lefty) ...you can see the left side of the receiver in the above picture from last summer. It's a Ferret bolt action made for an AR-15 lower. It's a nice assembly: 29" Lothar-Walther barrel, 0MOA solid rail, and because it's an upper, it's not a firearm and can be bought directly - it's the lower that needs to be transfered through a FFL. It's mated with a single-shot DPMS lower and an A2 fixed stock with 15lbs of lead in it...helps to tame the substantial recoil somewhat.
OneEyeCharlie Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 It's a Ferret bolt action made for an AR-15 lower. It's a nice assembly: 29" Lothar-Walther barrel, 0MOA solid rail, and because it's an upper, it's not a firearm and can be bought directly - it's the lower that needs to be transfered through a FFL. It's mated with a single-shot DPMS lower and an A2 fixed stock with 15lbs of lead in itI think I just got a boner
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