Capsaicin(oids) Extraction, Chilli growing

[psymon]

Not sure of variety but I have a few of these plants.

I am told the best way to get them to produce chillis as quick as possible and many of them is to only feed them for the first few weeks of growing. This is to stop them producing too much foliage. Then when the chillis start to form you can feed a small amount every week.

Also keep them in a small pot. This makes them grow until they are root bound. Once they are root bound they will start to flower. The smaller the pot the quicker the flowering. Anyway this is one of my plants. I brought it in the house because it looks so cool.

[Rogue Chemist]

Looks a lot like my cayenne plant.

 

Pity, I had my red savina and hothazel outside, and the aphids came. Those are really really difficult to remove. The plants were flowering like nuts, but the dead flowers fell off and I only have a couple RS on the plant right now.

[psymon]

If you take off some of the chillis when they are growing it has the effect of making the remaining chillis grow bigger. Why not use a pesticide to kill the aphids. Or if you dont like chemicals just use a weak solution of washing up liquid in a mister spray. They dont like it and will die or drop off after you have sprayed them. You can then use thumb and forefinger to strip them from the stems.

[Rogue Chemist]

Me? Not like chemicals?

 

I tried a couple different anti aphids pesticides, but they keep coming back.

 

I think the flowers are falling off because of the time of year, and light and such, not because of the aphids.

[psymon]

The washing up liquid idea may be the best bet then. My plants are not losing leaves yet. Seems a bit early to be dropping them. Of course depending where you live. I am in Bedfordshire - UK.

[Rogue Chemist]

Oh they arent dropping leaves, they just keep flowering, and then the flowers shrivel up and fall off.

[pa_pyro]

I just found the habanero sauce I made last year in the back of the fridge, I never thought to use it for extracting capsaicin. I got my habs from a plant I grew; I bought it for about 3$ from walmart. It was all ready to be boiled down because we juiced the peppers with a juicer.(that will be never again used for anything but hot peppers , mmmm spicy lemonade )

[asilentbob]

I just got a TAM mild jalapeno pepper plant and it was big already, it has 5 peppers with a sixth on the way. My other Thai chilis are doing good. My piquine is really little still. Stupid dwarf plant. So i have a total of 9 plants now.

[asilentbob]

Update, my Thai chili plants are starting to grow the peppers now, i should get anywhere from 8-16 chilis, they are green, but a little more curly than psymons pic, they might straiten out in a while. Longest is mabey 3". My piquin is about to start growing another pepper or 2 also. I think ill cut up one or 2 of the TAM mild Jalapenos and make a quesadillia with them in it tomorrow.

[Rogue Chemist]

MIne are all dead...frost came.

[Rooster]

I dunno what the fuck is wrong with my plants. The seeds germinate, but the plants dont get taller than 2". I am thinking too little phosphate. any of you have any ideas?

[Rogue Chemist]

After last years failure, I took advice of internet and started them in late january. After 2 weeks of sitting in moist dirt nothing was up. So as a test I put a few mLs of 2000ppm giberellic acid solution onto one red savina seed-pot. 2 days later and the plant is a half inch tall.

That stuff is awesome.

[h0lx]

OK so I have been growing cayennes for a while with an intention to extract capsaicin at fall. I added 200mg of KNO3 to one pot and will experiment with other things too soon.

 

Here are my babies:

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4961/p5041737xs6.jpg

 

The picture explains, why I have been quite idle too in pyro/chemistry lately:D I need to think of a new location for them other than my lab.

[fredjr]

Found a picture of some my DeArbol plants from a few years ago.

[asilentbob]

Well, last night i dreampt that all my plants had little peppers growing on them... but alas, not all of them do... the cayaness have around 10-15 pods starting it looks like... i havn't checked the bananna peppers, they probably have around 8 total pods starting... hopefully the habaneros have a few pods too...

 

I still have a bunch of little ones that i started in egg cartons that i need to transplant... but im pretty much out of garden room lol.

 

Edit: The cayannes from last season are looking pretty crappy. All the stuff in the garden is growing great except for the habaneros. The sweet bananna pepper plants have 3 sizable peppers already, and a few more pods are forming. It was really rainy here for a while, so just looking around i have found a ton of various mushrooms, i don't think any are edible, and i wouldn't try to eat one anyways though. My grape vine isn't growing too fast... hopefully it will get adjusted soon and take off and grow really fast.

[Newbergpyro]

Just A question here, sorry if it's off topic, but what does all this hot pepper stuff have to do with pyro stuff?

[h0lx]

It doesen't. Notice, that it is the "chemistry" subforum.

[crsaz]

If you want large amounts of capsaicin, grow som habeneros or other high capsaicin content peppers and giv them some gibberellic acid you will have habeneros that weigh a few hundred grams each

[asilentbob]

Having them grow bigger, faster doesn't necessarily mean that they have more capsaicin. Infact with peppers alot of the time the bigger pods have relativly low capsaicin, and the small ones, like habaneros, zimbabwe birds eye's, etc have realitivly high levels...

 

My plants are growing really well... except for the pepperoncinis... which i really want to grow... AND my habanero plants are starting to flower... exciting!!!

[Mumbles]

The gibberellic acid promotes fruiting and larger fruits. I'm not sure how that corresponds with capsacin levels within, but the peppers would be larger and more plentiful.

[crsaz]

I was half joking but you might be able to get alittle bit more capsaicin

[aquaman]

Hey guys I have a quick question. How long does say a habenero plant take to grow? I have 4 very small plants that I bought from a nursery about four to six weeks ago and they haven't grown an inch. I try not to water it too little or too much. I've kept them in not direct sunlight but rather in partial shade. Gets plenty of light just not the full blown rays of the sun.

 

I'm just growing them for fun (salsas/food).

[Rogue Chemist]

Are their pots too small? If they are root bound they will not grow.

 

I planted my seeds in january. For some reason after transplanting in may most refused to grow bigger, and their leaves stayed permantly wilted. Except for one hotazel plant, which is now 40cm tall and 60cm wide, and is becoming laden with chillis!. The red savinas started growing again after I cut them down to the ground, so they are far behind.

[aquaman]

when I bought them they might have been root bound but I put them (4) in a much larger pot 1.5ft wide by ~2 ft high. I didn't do anything special to them when I planted them because I figured the transplantation in the bigger pot would have stressed them enough. I just read that you're supposed to untangle the roots if the do become root bound but how do you do that when their so small and fragile.

 

Edit: Just dug one up and the roots seem fine. They're spread out and not confined. I did notice that the soil was moist and I haven't watered it for days and it also hasn't rained for a few days so that leads me to believe that the soil isn't draining like it should.

 

Do they like drier soils or somewhat moist soils?

[Rogue Chemist]

http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/containers.asp

 

The soil mix they use is awesome. It is what I use.