Smoke problems

[Caleb51]

Okay, so I made a smoke bomb finally. The mix was roughly 1 table spoon of sugar to 1.5 table spoons of KNO3. I put it all in a beer can cut off so it was about 2 inches. I put that in a very shallow dish (For fear of it igniting) and slowly melted the two together. It took me a solid 15 minutes to get a slighly gooey, slighly chunky mixture. I stuck a fuse in that consistecy mix, cooled it off, and lit it. I'm pretty sure it had a good big od thrust (Like a rocket) to it. It made a big "Whoooosh" type noise, a lot of fire, a lot of smoke, and was done in about 2 seconds. I thought it was supposed to be a more controlled burn then that? Any ideas? Thanks

[aquaman]

Here is another site that explains it (the 2nd:way, smoke producer)-Frogfot

 

This site explains that the wax is paraffin wax, also known as candle wax. You just grate the wax and add it to 3:1 (smoke mix:wax) there is no melting. The trick is also shielding the burning comp. from the air so you have to have it in a pop can or something. Read the website it'll tell you exaclty what to do. It's the 2nd device.

[Caleb51]

thanks a lot aquaman. I saw that site last night, and it caused this post in the first place. I wasn't sure if you melt it all together, or what. Now I know. Thanks for helping!

[dragonman586]

You bought it off united nuclear? Haha you got ripped off. They have the highest prices anywhere. Check out www.discountpyro.com you'll see what I mean.

[Caleb51]

Yeah, the main reason I bought off UN is because I wanted a small quantity, but thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

[Caleb51]

Read first post by me. I eddited it to include my new problem. Thanks

[PyroPicasso]

If you have bp chems I think you should try teknix’s smoke mix. I find it better, because it does not require melting and burns very slow.

 

teknix's smoke

[PyroJoe]

Remember though, with that particular smoke mix you MUST use a tube with a nozzle! If you just light the comp. on the ground in a pile it will just fizzle and bubble with a whole lot of nothing.

[delta_echo]

With the included sulfur, that is also a mix you neither want to smell or breathe. While the KN03/Sucrose smoke may not be the best, I always have had a strange fondness for the smell . . .

[Caleb51]

I do not have sulfu, but I may try to add some baking soda to slow it down anyways. Mine burned with so much force it was crazy.

[Spoony]

I just tried teknix's smoke, and couldnt get it to work. I used the exact method, and nothing but alot of flames. I added a bit more bicarb and tried again, and then it wouldnt even ignite with visco.

[teknix]

It's tricky to get to work right. You have to keep it from getting oxygen from the air or it will just flame up. If I have them in paper tubes and start flamming up, I'll give them a good kick and they start smoking hahahaha. Actually a better way to use this mix is to fill a soup can about 1/4 full of it and then smash the opening shut with pliers or a vise and then bend it over itself a couple times with pliers or a vise. Now punch a hole in the side near the top with a nail and insert the fuse. Works perfect every time and keeps the oxygen out and you can use a lot of smoke mix and get a large cloud this way.

 

Note: Dont use the pop can method because it will just burn right through the thin metal with this composition, it gets hot.

[d4j0n]

Small amounts? With UN's prices for small amounts are sometimes more than what it costs for twice the amount.

 

Heres a nice 3/4" x 2.5" smokebomb vids:

http://www.freepgs.com/d4j0n/pyro/smoke/3.4smoke.avi

http://www.freepgs.com/d4j0n/pyro/smoke/3.4smoke2.avi

 

windy day, apologies.