import_racer1 Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Hey, not sure if this is the right part of the forum to post or not, if not, please move to correct area. Just wondering where the average person would aquire iron oxide from, other than somewhere online. I know it is known as a painting supply product, but I am just wondering what sort of stores would carry this, and what exactly is it used for. Thanks for any help guys.
psyco_1322 Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Ceramics stores will carry it in red, black, and sometimes yellow. Its used in glazes mostly and sometimes to color clay.
h0lx Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 You can also make your own really easily, http://frogfot.com/ for example has 2 methods described nicely.
psyco_1322 Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Yah but without a ball mill and some hard grinding media you will never get it as fine as it is when you buy it, plus its cheap to buy. Just dont buy the spanish red iron oxide, its extremely impure, get just normal red iron oxide.
qwezxc12 Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Take a look at a Home Depot / Lowes or equivalent. They sometimes have 5lb. bags of it as a concrete colorant...that is to say, they always have bags of concrete pigment, and sometimes it's Fe2O3 and Fe3O4. Don't know the brand, though.
fredjr Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 I have way more than I could ever possibly use. I bought out a couple retiring pyros that had a lot and I already had as much as I will ever use. Skylighter has it for about 5 a pound. I'll sell you some for half that plus cost of postage.
TheSidewinder Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Nice offer, fredjr, it's appreciated by all of us. A bit of a tangent, but you DO know that we have The Agora here now? If you are interested in selling off your surplus chems (now, THERE'S an onymoron) you might take a look and see it's a suitable outlet for you. For safety reasons, we do have some restrictions regarding what you can sell at first. M
fredjr Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Don't have anything else I want to get rid of. Just have too much iron oxide. Especially now that I have used copper oxychloride as my whistle catalyst. Never even thought of selling it until I saw this post.
TheSidewinder Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 OK. BTW, you're welcome to sell *just* that one item, if you so desire and have way too much of it. AFAIK, there are no ORM-D restrictions on it? M
jacob Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Just dont buy the spanish red iron oxide, its extremely impure Where did you hear this? any more details? I'm about to make a large order from my ceramic supplier and I don't want to buy a bunch of junk even if it is cheaper. And no, Iron Oxide has no shipping restrictions that I know of.
Arthur Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 In the UK I can buy oxides of iron from artists suppliers but there are three in London and few in the rest! Also Iron Oxides are among the colourants used for colour matching mortar in the building industry. Also they can be found in pottery suppliers.
Bonny Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 You are in the GTA...probably a bunch of pottery supply shops around...take a look here: http://superpages.ca/listings.jsp?STYPE=S&...3.superpages.ca
h0lx Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Yah but without a ball mill and some hard grinding media you will never get it as fine as it is when you buy it coffee grinder will make it fine enouggh for most uses...
ogelami Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 this is how i did, i have done it twice, first i took some steel wool and put it in some natriumcloride solution(salt water) and broke a pen in the middle and took the grafit coal output an electrical wire around the coal cylinders and put it in the solution, and started the process by pution 20 volts into the water,in 3 days the steel wool had turn into iron oxide Fe2O2and i let it dry when you let iron oxide(Fe2O2) dry it picks up one oxygen atom and you get Fe2O3, one of the two main things you use when making thermite, and it has an extremly high purity something around 98% and its verry thin so thin it nearly doesnt even feel like powder ^^
Mumbles Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I suggest you review the chemistry of what you just wrote. Some english lessons may do you some good as well. Also putting those ads back into your signature is going to get you banned.
Picric acid DOES taste bitter! Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 I've made my Fe3O4 / Fe2O3 using hydrogen peroxide and steel whool. First, i burned the steel whool to form Fe3O4, but the problem is its really hard to powder properly. So, i took by burned wool and put in a jar with some 30% H2O2 and left it overnight. Later it had turned redder, more to the Fe2O3 side, but that doesent really matter. What matters is that i boiled the water off and had very pure, quick, and easy-to-powder Fe3O4 / Fe2O3 mix. Worked great in my thermite.
pyrogeorge Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 if it possible someone to say me where iron oxide used.
oskarchem Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 It is used in Rcandy, as a cataliser so your fuel burns faster.
pyrogeorge Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 is it used as glitter tail in sells or rockets?
Mumbles Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Yes, it can be used in both of those as well. I am also very fond of a prime containing it. Thermite is also an option.
psyco_1322 Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Its in some glitter formulas, used frequently as a catalyst, used as an oxiders in thermites, used for coloring cement.
Yankie Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Sorry to be a pain but whats Fe304 and whats it used for? can it be used in place of Fe203?
Mumbles Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 It's mangenite. Iron (II,III) Oxide Thing about it like a Fe2O3*FeO complex. It can be used most of the places in pyro where Fe2O3 can be, calatysts, thermite, primes, etc. It can be used in place of it, but I can't guarantee the same reactivity and functionality.
FrankRizzo Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 Magnetite (Fe3O4) is also a much better iron oxide to use in thermite mixtures. You'll get more molten iron per gram of aluminum that you use. The ratio of aluminum to iron oxide is a slightly different due to the increased oxygen content.
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