Problem with wheatpaste

[Stinger]

Hi

 

I made some wheatpaste today using pudis tutorial.

I thought it is a very strong glue for rolling tubes and pasting shells.

 

However, I wanted to roll a tube, I took a 12mm ID wooden dowel, 2m paperstrip from craftpaper sacks and some wheat paste.

 

I applied a small amount of wheatpaste on the paper, and started rolling.

Then it became messy.

 

The glue absolutely doesn´t stick to the paper, and if you are finished rolling the tube, it is almost impossible to discard the tube from the dowel.

And you can deroll the tube very easy, it absolutely doesnt stick.

 

 

Is there something wrong with my technique I roll my tubes?

I have heard some where that it takes a lot of practical work to roll tubes with wheatpaste, but I roll tubes for 2 years now and I am an expert.

 

i want to use this glue, because it is SO cheap, and pudi already made some pretty nice tubes.

 

Does anyone have a clue what I did wrong here?

 

Stinger

[Mumbles]

You didn't do anything wrong, presumably you made the paste correctly. It's just how wheat paste is. It doesn't have the same wet tack as a wood glue or something like that. It's strength however comes when it dries. It will be very hard upon drying.

 

Normally I will roll the majority of the layers with manilla file folder paper. The wheat paste doesn't penetrate the fibers as easily and stick to the former. Then a few layers of wetted kraft is put over the outside. This holds everything together, and gives the familiar brown color.

[pudidotdk]

I normally lube the dowel with a thin layer of vaseline. I use strips of around 45 cm long, and roll a couple of these around. On each I put a line of wood glue in the end so they will stick together. I then spread the wheat paste on a thin layer with a brush. I try to let it soak just a bit, but not let it dry out.

Then I give it a final wrap of 30# kraft.

Wheat paste is a mess, and not easy to use for tubes, but I've learned to use it properly, and my reward is to not spend the more expensive woodglue to the whole tube.

I havn't had much success with 50:50 water:wood glue, because I find that it will shrink much more than if I use properly made wheat paste or straight wood glue.