rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 You gotta Look at this picture! Its shows what looks like a contained explosion and it has a picture of the explosion right when it is a perfect bubble. The picture is on the third page in the center. The picture is on this link: http://www.funbackyardtechnology.com/kinetics.htmlIts sucks though cause it looks like you have to buy the full download to see how they did it . Unless of course anyone knows how this was done Do any of you know? If any of you guys know how to make one of these please send me a link or instructions Id reeely like to know. Thanks: Mel
Umphrey Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 (edited) I can't tell if you're just stupid or another spam bot, but that site is a huge crock of shit scam. Looking at the page you linked, I see such wonderful items as:Kitchen Revised Fire Grenade:An alternative to complex explosive grenades. The Kitchen Revised Fire Grenade is a non explosive choice selection In disaster situations such as mass panic. price--- $14.50and Easiest light explosive firework ever!!! price- $32 And then this: Taken from: http://www.funbackyardtechnology.com/survival.htmlThis guide contains the first and only comprehensive info on "REAL" homemade free energy devices which can be used to run some appliances, lights, and even a laptop! Item# ---LIV1 price--- $50 Free energy! For only 50 bucks? Gee golly I've just gotta order that. Edit: Sorry for coming off so rudely. Since none of use can see the picture, it's hard to answer your question. I would say what you're describing is just a frame from a highspeed camera taken of a detonation. Edited July 16, 2007 by Umphrey
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 Don't call me stupid for asking a question you jerk I just want to learn some pyrotechnics. And I wondering if someone knows how to makeone of these. If you Don't know I dont want hear your crap!
Pretty green flame Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Don't call me stupid for asking a question you jerk I just want to learn some pyrotechnics. And I wondering if someone knows how to makeone of these. If you Don't know I dont want hear your crap! Well blowing a hole in the backyard ain't exactly considered pyrotechnics. If you want to learn pyrotechnics some information about making BP and putting it to good use (by good use i don't mean blowin shit up).
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 Well then what is the technical term for blowing a whole in your yard called. I would think fire has something to do with pyrotechnics. Im not interested in demolitions I just want to learn how this stuff work. But I better be nice to you since your gonna go cut yourself. Im sure the world will fall apert when that happens
Pretty green flame Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 I'd say that the general term for a person wanting to blow a hole in his backyard would be a "Kewl". Pyrotechnics is an art, it's not simply mixing some stuff together so it burns. It takes a fair ammount of work to acomplish something that will come close to being satisfactory. And don't bother with the emo stuff, i am not one of them so i don't really give a shit.
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 Hey you have to start somewhere, art form or not you can't get complex with anything unless you master the basics. That's what Im' after. Im not here to hear bullshit from a bunch of 15 year bitches who probably couldn't even light a match without burning themselves. Back to my question does anyone know what the hell I was looking at in that picture!!! And if your an EMO kid I don't want to hear any post leave the PMS for the chick flick sites!
Frozentech Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Hey you have to start somewhere, art form or not you can't get complex with anything unless you master the basics. That's what Im' after. Im not here to hear bullshit from a bunch of 15 year bitches who probably couldn't even light a match without burning themselves. Back to my question does anyone know what the hell I was looking at in that picture!!! And if your an EMO kid I don't want to hear any post leave the PMS for the chick flick sites! What you were looking at is a web site designed to appeal to 15 year old bitches who want to know how to blow shit up in their backyard aka "kewl bomz kidz". Here's a link to the book you need: pyro guide
h0lx Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Well stop being a whore and post a DIRECT link to the picture.... you think ANYONE would buy some shit to tell some random prick what's in the bought file x on page y in the picture z?
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 Would If I could have h0lx but I couldn't copy the picture!
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 And it would be worth trying to see if someone knew something, all I get is smartass shit from little corny cheese dicks. God I love tech forums. 97% halfwit dumbasses 2% cocky know it all's and 1% legitimate. Im not even sure why I try for that 1%
Frozentech Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 And it would be worth trying to see if someone knew something, all I get is smartass shit from little corny cheese dicks. God I love tech forums. 97% halfwit dumbasses 2% cocky know it all's and 1% legitimate. Im not even sure why I try for that 1%Actually rome112, that's the problem. You come blasting in, acting precisely like a stereotype "kewl" and expect people who don't even know you, other than from your posts, to feel comfortable discussing energetic and sometimes risky devices and chemical compositions with you ? You need to step back, take a breath, and figure out what it is you really want, I think. If you are seriously interested in the art and science of pyrotechnics, you should start by reading on here, entire threads, then searching here for information. I'd also recommend obtaining some legitimate reference books on pyrotechnics. Pyrotechnics by Weingart is a good start, available free online (copyright expired) I'd also recommend you buy a copy of Introductory Practical Pyrotechnics by Tom Perigrin, if you are serious about wanting to learn. No one here is a "know it all", except almost everyone here has seen people come in the way you have ( several times a year ). Stop acting like a cliche and you'll do much better here. No pyro forum is entirely free of the "halfwit dumbasses", and you can help the ratio by not acting like one. Stay green.
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 As for you frozentech thanks for being so damn usefull and advertising another amusing piece of crap to buy. I thought this was a pyrotechnic forum, well so far no ones has talked about pyrotechnics. Let me refrase my question for the 97% majority here. Do you know what was in that picture If you don't care don't look at the picture! Its very simple! If you don't know just say so. Or better yet shut the hell up! Or if their is someone who can take a crack at it. I would appreciate it. Any body know some simple formulas to try? I know you can get blue from copper. Anybody know how crackling balls work? Or how whatever I saw in that picture works?
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 Look frozentech I know Im might fit the bill of the so called kewl and so what and I just learned that term today and as far as I know kewl seems to be some negative remark given to people who enjoy violent chemical reactions. But you are going to have forgive me but "KEWL" shit is all I have. Like I said you have to start somewhere. And Im wondering IF someone knows something that can help me. Ill get books but Im came here for a reason and thats curiosity
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 I did not come here to to flail anybody frozentech. If you go through the post you will see that people started off bycalling me stupid. And all I wanted to do was maybe get something more useful than paying $30. Most forums have a collection of people who just here to start crap.If people don't want to discuss any processes then they don't have to But what does it hurt to ask.
rome112 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 Back to my question anybody know whats in that picture? Anybody know some starter pyrotechics? Please no more book references. Can anbody quote a process or the name of a process that I can try for now?
crazyboy25 Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Hey you have to start somewhere, art form or not you can't get complex with anything unless you master the basics. That's what Im' after. Im not here to hear bullshit from a bunch of 15 year bitches who probably couldn't even light a match without burning themselves. your right you do have to start somewere but belive me it isn't with making explosions hand grwenades mass panic or any other of that bull shit becuase thats not "basics" thats stupid and dangerous because most things capable of blowing huge holes in the ground isn't art or even used in any pyrote chnic so if you really want to get into pyro dont ask how to make HE's and what not make yourself a smoke bomb and try not to burn yourself in the process . BTW we aren't "a bunch of 15 year bitches who probably couldn't even light a match without burning themselves." there are some smart people here who have a LOT of experience have fun with that smoke bomb be safe and remember only you can help stop forest fires.
Frozentech Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 As for you frozentech thanks for being so damn usefull and advertising another amusing piece of crap to buy. I thought this was a pyrotechnic forum, well so far no ones has talked about pyrotechnics. Let me refrase my question for the 97% majority here. Do you know what was in that picture If you don't care don't look at the picture! Its very simple! If you don't know just say so. Or better yet shut the hell up! Or if their is someone who can take a crack at it. I would appreciate it. Any body know some simple formulas to try? I know you can get blue from copper. Anybody know how crackling balls work? Or how whatever I saw in that picture works? OK then - link the damn picture. All that is on the page you linked so far is some computer generated junky ass graphic of a flame, so taking a wild ass guess, they did it with Photoshop. Simple formula ? Black Powder: 75% KNO3, 15% Charcoal, 10% Sulfur. (by weight) Yes, copper salts (with a suitable chlorine donor) can give you blue colors, if you use the correct oxidizer and fuel. Getting a really *good* blue star is one of the more difficult tasks in pyrotechnics. Crackle balls work by putting about 2 dozen primed dragon eggs in a thin plastic shell. Or did you mean how do dragon eggs work ? They work by a thermite reaction of bismuth or lead oxides, with copper oxide and magnalium fuel, You could have gotten all that information from reading the posts on this board.
rome112 Posted July 16, 2007 Author Posted July 16, 2007 HOLY SHIT A MIRACLE! Thats all I wanted people The blue star is far fetched for my skill level right now! but it sounds like a good goal for me to reach for. A smoke bomb sounds like a very good idea for me to work on first. the last time I tried the smoke bomb I used a store bought mixture of black powder and some sugar at about 3:1 ratio, black powder at three, and sugar at one. It wasn't very good and turned out to be a more suitable mixture for slow burning fuses applied to cotton string. Thank you for discusing pyrotechnics with me frozentech. I know that everybody isnt stupid here but its hard to believ that when you get jerked with right off the back.
rome112 Posted July 16, 2007 Author Posted July 16, 2007 As for the flame I wasn't looking at that the one on the side of the page I was looking at the gay free download for ball6 it has a picture on the third page right after some service agreement that I couldnt understand. It shows a picture of a styrofoam cup.
Pretty green flame Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 You know, if you didn't barge in here asking some retarded questions, maybe the reaction from some of us might have been different. First impression is the most important and you've screwed it up big time. So atleast in my eyes your still a stupid kewl bomber son of a bit**. Hope the others have more pitty for you and help you so you won't blow your fingers off, because i certanly won't. Have a nice day
Umphrey Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I'm sorry about responding so crassly to your post. We get alot of spam/one-post-losers here that begins very similar to your first post. I judged too quickly, I looked at your regdate and name and assumed you to be just another spammer. To atleast help you out a bit, I'll post the George Weingart books here. This CD contains multiple files in Adobe Acrobat format. The reader will need to have Acrobat or Acrobat Reader version 4 or higher to make use of these files. Acrobat Reader is available from Adobe Corporation free of charge, at www.adobe.com. One file, <Weingart Dictionary of Pyrotechnics.PDF> is George Weingart's first book, A Dictionary of Pyrotechnics. This was rendered from a rare copy of Weingart's first book acquired on the rare book market. Another, <Weingart Dictionary and Manual of Pyrotechny New Orleans 1937.PDF>, is Weingart's next book, his first hard cover edition, Dictionary and Manual of Pyrotechny. The other file is Weingart's book, Pyrotechnics, 2nd edition revised and enlarged, the final version of his work published just after World War II. This version has had one formula corrected that was rendered incorrectly in the Chemical Publishing edition. Note that the file size of the second edition revised is much smaller than that for the first. This is due to having rendered this file with OCR technology and totally reworking the text as text before generating the Acrobat file, whereas the Dictionary of Pyrotechnics was created by scanning into Acrobat and then generating a searchable file using Acrobat Capture software. The latter method produces a document that more closely resembles the original, but at the cost of a greater file size. We hope you enjoy them all. Prometheus PublicationsP O Box 7584Phoenix AZ 85011602-319-5525 http://www.savefile.com/files/892636 - Dictionary of Pyrotecnics http://www.savefile.com/files/892656 - Dictionary and Manual of Pyrotechny http://www.savefile.com/files/892658 - 2nd edition To give a stab at answering your original question, I would say you could be describing a cremora. Which is the effect of non-dairy coffee creamer being quickly dispersed and ignited in a fireball. http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how_to...mb_fireball.asp http://www.angelfire.com/fl/andyspyropage/cremora.html http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7366/64005839om1.th.jpg However, since I can't see your original picture, I could be WAY off. Edit: Re-uploaded picture to imageshack.
rome112 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks Umphrey, sorry I "blew up" at you like a kewl and I really appreciate the help. Its just that I am an eletronic engineer and am pretty bitter from other tech forums where It seems no one is on topic. I should have probabaly tried harder to word myself better and tried to get you guys a link with wikiupload.com so that I could have saved you the trouble of visiting that website. Im just trying to get myself a side hobby to practice when I finally get put out to pasture in my field. You guys really seem to know your stuff. Again I didn't mean to come hear and light any fuses. Im kinda a firecracker myself :-(
rome112 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Posted July 17, 2007 Umphrey and thanks for answering the question about the blast in that picture it looks exactly like the picture you posted. I'm pretty sure that what it is.I could't yank the picture from the file on that download, but I placed a link to the file directly so you don't have to swim through that site http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=179828 The link you sent was interesting I did not know thats was how special effects were done. How wierd it was just creamer.
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