Tiger Tail Fountain

[kleberrios]

Fonte de cauda de tigre, colocada dentro de uma garrafa de alumínio.

[dgsh009]

hello
Nice !
what is the composition and ratio?

[Zumber]

Tiger Tail

Potassium nitrate 44

Sulphur 06

Charcoal 44

Binder 06

Binder may be Dextrin or SGRS.

[dgsh009]

THANK YOU my friend Zumber.
Is it a kind of fountains? is there any points to product this tiger tail?

Edited December 23, 2024 by dgsh009

[SKC]

On 12/23/2024 at 5:08 PM, dgsh009 said:

THANK YOU my friend Zumber.
Is it a kind of fountains? is there any points to product this tiger tail?

If Kleberrios's fountain has impressed you then you have to get few things right.

Like length and id of the fountain tube. And id of the nozzle along with length of the nozzle plug.

Seems you are a newbie(pardon if I have mistaken) so please note that wall thickness of the tube is also important or it will be a catastrophe.

[dgsh009]

4 hours ago, SKC said:

If Kleberrios's fountain has impressed you then you have to get few things right.

Like length and id of the fountain tube. And id of the nozzle along with length of the nozzle plug.

Seems you are a newbie(pardon if I have mistaken) so please note that wall thickness of the tube is also important or it will be a catastrophe.

thanks for guidence.
what is the nuzzle to id ratio? what about length?

[Zumber]

10 hours ago, dgsh009 said:

thanks for guidence.
what is the nuzzle to id ratio? what about length?

I generally prefer 1/3 of Tube ID that means for example if you have 3 inch Tube ID you may need 1 inch nozzle diameter atleast. And at entry of stars it should be a bit more and conical shape.

[dgsh009]

4 hours ago, Zumber said:

I generally prefer 1/3 of Tube ID that means for example if you have 3 inch Tube ID you may need 1 inch nozzle diameter atleast. And at entry of stars it should be a bit more and conical shape.

that's right. does fountain need ignition prime to start?
and how to make the fountain nozzle ?

[Zumber]

Just fill nozzle with loose slow burning Bp mixture or a piece of visco or BM is sufficient to ignite fountain mixture.

I make fountain nozzle just like rocket nozzles are made for that I have prepared tools.

[Zumber]

This is small fountain manufacturing footage.

[SKC]

1 hour ago, dgsh009 said:

that's right. does fountain need ignition prime to start?
and how to make the fountain nozzle ?

If you are using Barium or Stontia based fountain, you may prime the nozzle. However a visco (if you have access to it) or a good BM provides positive ignition. BP base fountain does not require priming.

Nozzle length & diameter depends upon id of the casing. You can start with Zumber's suggestion. Previously I used drill bit, but nozzle was compromised with it. Now I have made customised tools from local lathe.

[dgsh009]

 

1 hour ago, Zumber said:

This is small fountain manufacturing footage.

perfect ! would we make nozzle without it's instrument?

[Zumber]

As SKC has mentioned it can be made with drill, but it should not be drilled to live composition ,just use screw driver type tool and your hands to rotate it instead of using electric drill that's pretty unwise and extremely dangerous. This technique can be used for bp type only and not recommended for other mixture.

Second traditional choice is to pre-drill nozzle before pressing bp into it.

For this technique pre-drill nozzle to clay then take rope made of pure cotton cloth and is of same diameter as nozzle and be capable to fit tightly inside nozzle, then insert it by twisting and insert technique in nozzle till it cover its length,to keep fountain straight while pressing; unwind cotton cloth outside nozzle and spread it over ground,then press BP and end clay then remove cotton rope pulling outside using hand.

This cotton rope is used to prevent nozzle chocking while pressing fountain mixture if you don't have nozzle tools.

 It is not professional technique It is not recommended. I have shared because We use this for massive giant wooden fountain.

 

[dgsh009]

16 hours ago, Zumber said:

As SKC has mentioned it can be made with drill, but it should not be drilled to live composition ,just use screw driver type tool and your hands to rotate it instead of using electric drill that's pretty unwise and extremely dangerous. This technique can be used for bp type only and not recommended for other mixture.

Second traditional choice is to pre-drill nozzle before pressing bp into it.

For this technique pre-drill nozzle to clay then take rope made of pure cotton cloth and is of same diameter as nozzle and be capable to fit tightly inside nozzle, then insert it by twisting and insert technique in nozzle till it cover its length,to keep fountain straight while pressing; unwind cotton cloth outside nozzle and spread it over ground,then press BP and end clay then remove cotton rope pulling outside using hand.

This cotton rope is used to prevent nozzle chocking while pressing fountain mixture if you don't have nozzle tools.

 It is not professional technique It is not recommended. I have shared because We use this for massive giant wooden fountain.

 

thanks. for charcoal fountain , what is the charcoal ratio must be add to bp? ( for example for 100g of BP)
What particle size of charcoal is use for that? ( i read 20 mesh some sources)

[Zumber]

For spark production you may use coarse metal or charcoal too.

Coarse metal (20-40 mesh) includes Cast iron (coated), titanium or microstars, some people also used Magnelium ( for Golden Coin fountain/ glittering effect)

You may use 1/3 grams of weight of black powder for example if you plan 100 gm bp then use 33 gram of coarse metal/microstars/titanium likewise.

I haven't tried coarse charcoal yet so I just can't tell more about it.

[dgsh009]

On 1/15/2025 at 1:08 PM, Zumber said:

For spark production you may use coarse metal or charcoal too.

Coarse metal (20-40 mesh) includes Cast iron (coated), titanium or microstars, some people also used Magnelium ( for Golden Coin fountain/ glittering effect)

You may use 1/3 grams of weight of black powder for example if you plan 100 gm bp then use 33 gram of coarse metal/microstars/titanium likewise.

I haven't tried coarse charcoal yet so I just can't tell more about it.

Thanks my friend.the BP for gerb must be as lift charge quality ?

Edited Friday at 03:44 PM by dgsh009

[SKC]

I never poke nozzle with an electric drill into a finished fountain, never. Be it BP based or of any other composition. I always make the nozzle with a drill bit by hand piearcing into it. This was not clear in my last communication.

[Mumbles]

The bigger the fountain or gerb the coarser material you can use. I'd avoid using something as coarse as 20 mesh metal or charcoal unless I was making a fairly large fountain. 

BP does not need to be lift quality. Again, it depends on the size of the fountain. Bigger fountains need tamer mixes generally. Too fast and they can start to blow up more easily. It's trial and error in some cases.

[dgsh009]

2 hours ago, Mumbles said:

The bigger the fountain or gerb the coarser material you can use. I'd avoid using something as coarse as 20 mesh metal or charcoal unless I was making a fairly large fountain. 

BP does not need to be lift quality. Again, it depends on the size of the fountain. Bigger fountains need tamer mixes generally. Too fast and they can start to blow up more easily. It's trial and error in some cases.

thanks.
Is there any paste(dough) that be good for making nozzle of gerbs(fountains) ?
 

Edited 10 hours ago by dgsh009