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Is there any idea about fireworks which is Eco-friendly or have less polluting impact on environment and our health???

I know nothing about it and don't find any topic here. I think at this time it has a great importence to all of us.

It may contain lesser aluminium, barium, potassium nitrate,harmful chemical which making them eco-friendly.

My kind request to all of you let's start discuss something and try to make it, by what we know or with an idea.

Any suggestions is welcome...

Thanks...

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sora Newbie

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There were some formulas listed in the same web page but I can't see them now
searching google with terms like improved formulations site:neeri.res.in
can fetch you some "green" formulas for chinese crackers, sparklers and fountains:

https://www.neeri.res.in/img_homes/51939313_Improved_Formulations.pdf

https://www.neeri.res.in/img_homes/69908760_New_Formulations.pdf

https://www.neeri.res.in/file_homes/75021773_master_file_tt.pdf

Typically they've replaced or reduced BariumN by PotasiumN partially or completely. I'm not sure however what role Zeolite plays in these formulations

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Carbon796 Explorer

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If you think one hobbyist using lower pollutant "eco friendly " formulas. Or believe that buying a hybrid or electric vehicle will actually make a measurable difference in global warming. Your trying to fix the least significant part of the problem. Big industrial segments, far out way, any measurable impact you could try to achieve in your life time.

 

Just one small example

https://newatlas.com/shipping-pollution/11526/

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There were some formulas listed in the same web page but I can't see them now

searching google with terms like improved formulations site:neeri.res.in

can fetch you some "green" formulas for chinese crackers, sparklers and fountains:

 

https://www.neeri.res.in/img_homes/51939313_Improved_Formulations.pdf

 

https://www.neeri.res.in/img_homes/69908760_New_Formulations.pdf

 

https://www.neeri.res.in/file_homes/75021773_master_file_tt.pdf

 

Typically they've replaced or reduced BariumN by PotasiumN partially or completely. I'm not sure however what role Zeolite plays in these formulations

Okay...At least get an idea , thanks.

 

But how to use iron power??? With iron powder there is a problem of storing of the items made.

Carbon796 Explorer

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The usual treatment for iron powder, in contact with an oxidizer. Is applying a wax coating. Generally 3% is recommended iirc. Though in my experience 6% seemed like a better fit. Supposedly though it still has somewhat of a shelf life. Edited by Carbon796
PRANAB Newbie

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If you think one hobbyist using lower pollutant "eco friendly " formulas. Or believe that buying a hybrid or electric vehicle will actually make a measurable difference in global warming. Your trying to fix the least significant part of the problem. Big industrial segments, far out way, any measurable impact you could try to achieve in your life time.

 

Just one small example

https://newatlas.com/shipping-pollution/11526/

Yes , you are correct.Nevertheless , if a small changes of ours in making fireworks help environment and less impact in health , it will beneficial to all of us..

Actually in every years there is always impose a ban on fireworks from government, that's why I am start it.

At least during burning of fireworks we can think that it is a eco-friendly . Thanks for participating....

PRANAB Newbie

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The usual treatment for iron powder, in contact with an oxidizer. Is applying a wax coating. Generally 3% is recommended iirc. Though in my experience 6% seemed like a better fit. Supposedly though it still has somewhat of a shelf life.

OKay... Is there any techniques which you will recommend???

sora Newbie

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Well, I'm talking about in the Indian context with reference to the recent ban of using fireworks.

Fireworks add only a fraction to the pollution already existing in larger Indian cities that too for a few hours. Delhi's air quality is now 'severe' and Diwali is long gone.

 

Over the years pseudo/seasonal environmental activists tried to spread misinformation and to inflict self guilt upon us . They have been partially successful so far and that's why we see
this partial fireworks ban.

They approached gradually. Earlier pollution was not the issue but the non-ethical child labor practice in the fireworks industry was.

 

Once child labor laws were enforced and juvenile labor almost abolished they changed the tagline, "Diwali is a festival of light, say no the crackers(fireworks that make 'loud' reports)"
Once the sound limit was set to 105 Decibel ( correct me if I'm wrong, for the state of West Bengal it is a draconian 90 DB) they changed the tagline
"Diwali is a festival of food, fun, blah blah but no fireworks".

Don't think that green fireworks will deter these activists even a bit. They'll not stop until all the festive lights are completely gone.

Here are two examples how they spread hard lies about fireworks.How many pieces of misinformation you can pick from these two "mainstream media" articles?

"The stunning colours of fireworks are created by burning chemicals that affect our health. Heavy metals are used to produce the colours, often include outdated ones such as rubidium and cadmium"

When did you last use rubidium to color your rongmoshals/torches? :D :D :D

https://www.thestatesman.com/features/behind-bright-lights-1502513632.html

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/lights-sound-chemical-reaction-facts-about-diwali-firecrackers/articleshow/87532059.cms?fbclid=IwAR2rt6Qr8sF-DRxTQOLubkxncQc1bBvKrO-NHMlV3cjuXKF6YePfodDayNE


However I'm not telling that we should not try to improve the fireworks, just reminding that these activists won't stop there.



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deepakpyro Apprentice

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I totally agree with Sora.

 

Few activity bothered about the amount of pollutants released by fireworks on one night but having blind eye about the pollutants released by foundries surrounding NCR region and other parts of the Country.

 

There were several pesticides industries still running all parts of India which releasing the harmful chemicals into water and air daily unnoticed.

 

Recent ban of fireworks contains barium few days prior to the festival is totally a show piece only. Why to ban fireworks which was manufactured year long and bother it during last days of sales.

 

I read a article, "some" activities wants fireworks without aluminium, magnesium alloys, any Nitrates and heavy use of charcoal.

 

Its sounds crazy but this is what they needed. How to make fireworks without basic oxidiser ?. We have wait and see what gonna happen in upcoming days.

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sora Newbie

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I totally agree with Sora.

 

Few activity bothered about the amount of pollutants released by fireworks on one night but having blind eye about the pollutants released by foundries surrounding NCR region and other parts of the Country.

 

There were several pesticides industries still running all parts of India which releasing the harmful chemicals into water and air daily unnoticed.

 

Recent ban of fireworks contains barium few days prior to the festival is totally a show piece only. Why to ban fireworks which was manufactured year long and bother it during last days of sales.

 

I read a article, "some" activities wants fireworks without aluminium, magnesium alloys, any Nitrates and heavy use of charcoal.

 

Its sounds crazy but this is what they needed. How to make fireworks without basic oxidiser ?. We have wait and see what gonna happen in upcoming days.

 

The latest ban by the Calcutta High Court (which got revoked just couple of days before Diwali) was in response to a petitioner who thinks Fireworks suck out atmospheric oxygen.

Such is the level of ignorance !!!!!

Arthur Community Regular

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Modern formulae have ditched the major problems already! Blues no longer use copper aceto arsenite and each other arsenic compound has gone from firework comps now. Likewise most other horrid chems have gone. However people will still travel to fireworks displays burning more fuel that the total weight of the fireworks used.

PRANAB Newbie

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Yes I agree with all of you...

For environmental pollution, the fireworks is not the only cause, there have many other source of pollutant.

Actually in every year there is a ban on general fireworks and only green crackers (eco-friendly) are allowed to burn on the day , such stories can not taking any more...

Thanks for participating,and opinion...

Regards...

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Modern formulae have ditched the major problems already! Blues no longer use copper aceto arsenite and each other arsenic compound has gone from firework comps now. Likewise most other horrid chems have gone. However people will still travel to fireworks displays burning more fuel that the total weight of the fireworks used.

Yes!!!

There have lot of changes took place in making fireworks for such reason..

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