can you make your own lampblack?

[ronmoper76]

i believe its made by burning petroleum products? i remember years ago when i was in prison,we used to make a toilet paper wick in a jar of vaseline with a aluminum foil cone positioned over the flame. a very fine black soot forms on the aluminum rapidly and makes excellent ink for tatoos,i watched the process many times and its super easy. I also considered wiping the inside of my oil furnace chimney pipe as i just replaced it last year and im sure its probably loaded... anyone experienced in the above methods or have some input

[SharkWhisperer]

i believe its made by burning petroleum products? i remember years ago when i was in prison,we used to make a toilet paper wick in a jar of vaseline with a aluminum foil cone positioned over the flame. a very fine black soot forms on the aluminum rapidly and makes excellent ink for tatoos,i watched the process many times and its super easy. I also considered wiping the inside of my oil furnace chimney pipe as i just replaced it last year and im sure its probably loaded... anyone experienced in the above methods or have some input

Used a Sony Discman with a homemade battery pack for the vibrating gun and a sharpened ballpoint pen tip or just a concrete cell floor-sharpened metal wire for the needle, did ya? Not slamming your history, but pyro recipes aren't as flexible as jailtime Pruno recipes... But you don't seem to have learned this yet.

 

And burnt hair gel was much better than the lampblack made from burnt Vaseline, especially after you learned that sand in your Vaseline was a message that you were doing things wrong. $15/pound for good stuff from reputable dealers (who uses a lot?). You have a great need for lampblack or for prison ink?

 

Are you feeling nostalgic and need to revisit your prison time and try to consolidate all those oh-so-valuable learning lessons into your pyro hobbying mistakes?

 

Alrighty then, it'll be interesting to see what you concoct before you set yourself on fire (again).

 

Yes, making your own lampblack is easy. Making a lot of decent pyro lampblack is not so simple. Easy answer. An answer that you could have located from reliable sources (lampblack manufacturers for one) if your lazy ass would think to do your own studying. For once. You are what--30s, 40s? You have no formal science background--Youtube, Google, and Wikipedia really just don't count. You like to blow shit up. You almost killed your girlfriend when you "dried" plates of stars, repeatedly, underneath a wood stove, indoors. It eventually cost you a bit of skin. She only had to hide upstairs with a wet cloth over her face so she could continue breathing. But you don't learn from those extreme episodes. To date, you have provided absolutely zero information that indicates that you have any knowledge, or desire (or intellect) to learn, the basic chemistry and technology underlying energetic comps. You are a danger to yourself (as I a said before...who cares?) but also to everybody around you.

 

You're the older dude who throws an ounce of flash on a campfire without warning. You're Darwin's exception. People here don't guess about chems and fire. They predict, based on sound starting knowledge.You don't possess that. You just have no idea. And if you think the alphabet agencies don't occasionally scour through this forum and flag morons like you that might benefit from further "attention", then you're really naive. Be careful. Especially if you're still on paper.

Edited March 2, 2021 by SharkWhisperer

[Arthur]

The production of carbon black including lamp black is simply the partial combustion of a petroleum product with the black product collected either by a water spray or other means.

Carbon blacks are used in huge quantities in tyre making for cars and trucks. SO someone must sell them at dirt cheap prices (but by the ton). Carbon blacks are the dirtiest thing you will find in your life. Open a bottle of black and your face eyes and nose will give you proof of black for a week. Absolutely you need a respirator with good filters.

 

The fact that few pyro suppliers stock lampblack actually shows how little is used in hobby pyro.

[Arthur]

I did have an OK price for a sample of carbon black but that was for a 50kilo bag from a rubber makers ingredient company. But that would be 50kilos of extreme mess which I couldn't use.

[ronmoper76]

I did have an OK price for a sample of carbon black but that was for a 50kilo bag from a rubber makers ingredient company. But that would be 50kilos of extreme mess which I couldn't use.

The conductive lampblack seems even harder to find,firefox is the only place i could find

[Arthur]

My point from post 4 is that all the carbon blacks (inc lampblack) are available to the rubber compounding trade, just that they come in huge bags as "samples" or in truck size bulk loads for makers of tyres etc.

 

Sadly I've never found a supplier who's idea of small quantity matches mine! How far does 50kg go!?!?

 

If you need a few grams of black then actually catching it on a metal plate just at the top of a lamp oil flame seems an easy idea to try.

[ronmoper76]

Thank you!

[Arthur]

https://www.britannica.com/science/carbon-black

 

May offer something.

[SeaMonkey]

How to make the most prized of all Lampblacks which is also used for Senko Hanabi.

[SharkWhisperer]

The conductive lampblack seems even harder to find,firefox is the only place i could find

FWC has lampblack in stock for $15/lb, which is good-to-usual pricing for small quantities. It lasts awhile.

 

Damn, Ron, looking back on this thread, seems I lit your butt up a little bit about safety concerns when you first showed up here with some "interesting" stories, hah ha!

 

Glad you stuck through it. Clear that you're into the hobby and taking sound advice to help make yourself a bunch of super-cool comps and devices!

 

Careful with your neighbors this coming 4th!

 

I'm right now milling a BP batch using that paulownia charcoal you were thinking to buy, so will report back after I finish... I didn't oven-dry it, so hoping no clumping...

 

 

Edit: Read the reviews about Firefox before you send Diane Purrington, or any Purrington (family biz) your credit card numbers.... They were on top of the game 14 years ago, but got busted for selling DIY M-80 kits and were dumb enough to do it again when they thought the coast was clear (it wasn't), and are now permanently restricted in sales (1 pound of potassium nitrate/year without an BATFE license, hah hah!). Plus, their records are open for guv analysis and they regularly send lists of clients and transactions with all identifying information to the ABCs. And you need to send a DL or passport photocopy before they'll do business. But the biggest issue is whether you'll ever get your goods. Search "Firefox" here---they don't have a great reputation over the past several (many) years, but I hope that changes.

Edited June 10, 2021 by SharkWhisperer

[Arthur]

ALL forms of carbon black are made from partially burned organic material, from waste fractions from oil refining to assorted gasses. The principal use for carbon black is re-enforcement of rubbers for tyres, conveyors etc. Conductive blacks are made from the smoke from reduced oxygen burning of acetylene, these are used to make moderately conductive rubbers for static dissipation. Carbon blacks vary according to their source and method, all traded carbon blacks are intended for the rubber industry or the inks and pigments industry.

[ronmoper76]

https://www.britannica.com/science/carbon-black

 

May offer something.

simply awesome guys,thank you for finding this information