Richtee Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 thermite am I gonna need to change 12” of snow off of my driveway to steam?
calebkessinger Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 lol..wish we had some snow. Didn't see any last year..
pirotek Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 use NaСl steam does not get, but the snow melts
PeteyPyro Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 I'd use KCl, but that's more useful for use with a chlorate cell. Yeah, thermite sounds like more fun. Ain't made some in years.
Richtee Posted December 15, 2017 Author Posted December 15, 2017 Interesting... Perhaps superheated steam created so fast INSIDE the solid outside walls of ice? That was a fair boom allrighty!Napalm or nothing!I’ll have to do it in the morning I suppose... 1
pirotek Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 but rather sell snow to the calebkessinger 1
PeteyPyro Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 I always thought that the extreme heat split the hydrogen from the oxygen in the water, and then it explosively recombined ✴
PeteyPyro Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 Couple tons... Couple of tons of napalm or thermite? Really? (If I told you once, I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate!)
NeighborJ Posted December 16, 2017 Posted December 16, 2017 Well Richtee I can't answer your question but I can tell you that it requires 1152 btus to change the state of 1 lb of water to 1 lb of steam. I can also tell you that a heavy snow equates to 1" of water for every 4" of snow and 1 cubic foot of water weighs 62.43 lbs. With that info I can calculate that you would require 17,979.84 btus to change state from 32 degrees ice to 212 degrees steam for every square foot of driveway. If you desired to only melt the ice back to water the Btus required is 180 per pound. I don't know the Btus generated by thermite but I would imagine it would very widely between chemical scources and there would be issues achieving 100% conversion of all heat produced into the snow. Without this efficiency factor or a hard number of btus given by thermite, I suppose you will need to just suck it up and pull out the shovel. 1
dynomike1 Posted December 16, 2017 Posted December 16, 2017 Gasoline and washing powder i'll do it. Or roll up a bunch of stars.
dagabu Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Now Petey, Lets say the man has a 25x50 foot long driveway, that's 1250 sq feet of surface, lets say 3 pounds of thermite per square foot and a little extra where the plow came by. Couple tons... Couple of tons of napalm or thermite? Really? (If I told you once, I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate!)
PeteyPyro Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) Ok, dag, you're right...but I'd prefer napalm. Maybe a tanker sized lampare (a smallish tanker). Edited December 17, 2017 by PeteyPyro 1
OldMarine Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Just paste up a few dozen ball shells full of rock salt and hot burst and prepare to haul new dirt in next year so you can grow some grass back on the well killed lawn but you'll have a nicely thawed driveway!
NeighborJ Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 No no no, a rock salt mine would be far more precise and a rock salt candle should do the walk nicely. 1
OldMarine Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 No no no, a rock salt mine would be far more precise and a rock salt candle should do the walk nicely.I like it! A fan cake of salt mines ought to do the trick and may even kill a few turtledoves for dinner! 1
OldMarine Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Seriously, we used crushed charcoal one year on the lot at work to melt the ice/snow off the parking lot. It serves no other purpose than sucking up the meager winter sun but it worked quickly at temps in the twenties when Ice-Melt wouldn't do squat.
dagabu Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Napalm just doesn't have the staying power of thermite, it's all just a flash in the pan. HEY! Flash! Ok, dag, you're right...but I'd prefer napalm. Maybe a tanker sized lampare (a smallish tanker).
NeighborJ Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Yeah Dave, it might even knock the snow off the roof, bonus!
Richtee Posted December 17, 2017 Author Posted December 17, 2017 Well..in the interim, I just fired up the John Deere and got R done. It’s 160 foot long drive. Lotta snow. I just hated facing the fact it’s winter, and Mother Nature was rubbing my face in it. Overnight. Charcoal. Huh. Gotta be a mess tracking that crap everywhere, but..cool. I really need to get the hell outta Michigan. At least for the winter. Ugh. Anyone southern way need a security/electronics/pitmaster for a few months?
Mouse Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 'Tis just starting to warm up here, bout 95f but Aus is probably a bit further south than your looking for I'm guessing!! Great barbecue weather though!!
dagabu Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 I bet you don't get fire ant bites on your legs or Alligators hunting you down or scorpions hiding in your boots or rattlers lurking under rocks up there in Michigan? Well..in the interim, I just fired up the John Deere and got R done. It’s 160 foot long drive. Lotta snow. I just hated facing the fact it’s winter, and Mother Nature was rubbing my face in it. Overnight. Charcoal. Huh. Gotta be a mess tracking that crap everywhere, but..cool. I really need to get the hell outta Michigan. At least for the winter. Ugh. Anyone southern way need a security/electronics/pitmaster for a few months?
PeteyPyro Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Seriously, we used crushed charcoal one year on the lot at work to melt the ice/snow off the parking lot. It serves no other purpose than sucking up the meager winter sun but it worked quickly at temps in the twenties when Ice-Melt wouldn't do squat. That going on at the poles. Soot stays on top of the melting glaciers, soaking up the sun, and raising the ocean levels (so says AL Gore)
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