lloyd Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 I'm confused by your term "The Poly Glue". I've searched this entire site, and there's not another reference to that term anywhere. So... WHAT 'poly glue'? Do you mean 1-part polyurethane wood glue? If so, it should foam-up and increase in volume by several times during cure. Is that it? Lloyd
Mumbles Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 I'm confused by your term "The Poly Glue". I've searched this entire site, and there's not another reference to that term anywhere. So... WHAT 'poly glue'? Do you mean 1-part polyurethane wood glue? If so, it should foam-up and increase in volume by several times during cure. Is that it? Lloyd Yep, not a single reference anywhere. http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/6663-first-3-shells-wow/?view=findpost&p=87481http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/3804-rising-tails-for-bombettes/?view=findpost&p=52620http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/3567-my-new-discovery/?view=findpost&p=49880http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2127-alternative-to-making-e-matches/?view=findpost&p=46478http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/3363-a-roman-candle/?view=findpost&p=46463http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/389-composite-propellants/?view=findpost&p=45512http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/33-random-thread-1/?view=findpost&p=45212http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4417&view=findpost&p=44179http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/3212-cutting-stars/?view=findpost&p=44178http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2579-passing-fire-to-header/?view=findpost&p=43514http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2579-passing-fire-to-header/?view=findpost&p=43486http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/3068-sticky-assed-prime/?view=findpost&p=42904http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/3068-sticky-assed-prime/?view=findpost&p=42784http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/3029-a-tip/?view=findpost&p=42336http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2997-star-colour-system/?view=findpost&p=41872http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2965-ammonium-perchlorate-and-mg/?view=findpost&p=41516http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2965-ammonium-perchlorate-and-mg/?view=findpost&p=41515http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2965-ammonium-perchlorate-and-mg/?view=findpost&p=41509http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/91-occasional-happiness/?view=findpost&p=40345http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/102-aerial-shells/?view=findpost&p=38977http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2904-white/?view=findpost&p=40330http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/102-aerial-shells/?view=findpost&p=37335http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/102-aerial-shells/?view=findpost&p=37326http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/2621-polyurethane-glue/?view=findpost&p=35658
lloyd Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Mumb,A search for "Poly glue" (as a single term) turned up zero. Is your search function more powerful than ours (us humble 'users')? I saw tons of "poly", and lots of "glue"... but I don't have time to search manually through hundreds of posts using either term, just to find those that have it as a single term. Is there a particular search syntax that will find only the phrase? Lloyd
Mumbles Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 I have the same search function as everybody else. I believe most of the normal search operators like enclosing a set of words in quotation marks to look for a phrase or specific chain of words, or adding + or - to terms all work. Normal Google or search engine stuff. Searching for poly glue (no quotation marks) brings up 27 threads, and "poly glue" brings up 18 threads. That's just straight from the search bar. Your numbers may vary slightly, as I think there's a couple results from a Trashcan sub-forum that's invisible to most members. One piece of advice I can give is that there is an icon that looks like a little gear next to the search bar that takes you to an advanced search page. I like this one a little better. You can filter by author, date, sub-forum, etc. Most useful to me is that you can choose to view results as posts instead of threads. It gives a short preview of each entry which helps to quickly vet results. Also, because this site is mostly publicly posted it's also indexed by all major search engines. You can include "site:amateurpyro.com" in a Google search plus whatever terms you want, and it'll search the whole site as well. Note that if you're viewing a thread and try to search from here, it'll by default try to only search that thread. There's a thing in the box that will say "this thread". You need to change it to "forums" to get much use out of it. It's annoying until I actually need to search a specific thread.
OldMarine Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Thanks, I'm not very computer savvy so I'm often frustrated searching for something I know I've read before. That info should help!
lloyd Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 I _thought_ I was 'computer savvy', but I guess I need to review 'Google searches'. I got nothing 'useful'. Now, that's not to say I didn't get 'hits', but I got so many that they weren't useful, and looking through a few of them revealed nothing of 'poly glue'. I'm quite familiar with polyurethane one-part glue. So... Now back to the discussion, and my 'associated' question concerning the properties of the glue. That glue FOAMS upon exposure to moisture, humidity... any form of water. In fact, water is necessary to its curing. And, mixing it with something else doesn't ordinarily suppress that foaming characteristic. So... when you mix it with the oxidizer... does it, or does it not "foam up"? Thanks,Lloyd
OldMarine Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Mum's search advice is working well for me but I too will add to the subject of the thread. I recently tested glitter/ blue mated comets and used Duco cement to stick them and it worked well. Upon (minimal) investigation it seems this is a NC based cement. Doesn't matter to me since it works with no bad side effects. Actually think I heard of the cement on a thread here but searches........
Sparx88 Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 Have you tried anything like clear 2 part 30 minute liquid epoxy? I used the 5 minute clear before to mate HG#5 to shimizu silver wave 50 as 3/4" od comets. Each 1/2" to make em 1" tall combined. Need to wrap them leaving 1/4" on each end exposed.
Richtee Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 I _thought_ I was 'computer savvy', but I guess I need to review 'Google searches'. I got nothing 'useful'. Now, that's not to say I didn't get 'hits', but I got so many that they weren't useful, and looking through a few of them revealed nothing of 'poly glue'. I'm quite familiar with polyurethane one-part glue. So... Now back to the discussion, and my 'associated' question concerning the properties of the glue. That glue FOAMS upon exposure to moisture, humidity... any form of water. In fact, water is necessary to its curing. And, mixing it with something else doesn't ordinarily suppress that foaming characteristic. So... when you mix it with the oxidizer... does it, or does it not "foam up"? Thanks,Lloyd It “foams” slightly. As there is NOT alot of moisture present..it’s minimal, and if you “work” it with a stick abit during cure, it will “condense” more. And it sticks to about anything..especially fingers. And it’s gotta wear off
Mortartube Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 Those cut stars splitting into the two separate colours at about 25 feet sound as though they may make an interesting mine.
FlaMtnBkr Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 I don't think I saw an actual answer to Lloyd's question about the glue. So "poly glue" is not a PVA (Polyvinyl acetate) type, like wood glue, but a polyurethane glue? I believe the original/standard Gorilla Glue is this type that foams while curing/drying? Are all foaming glues a polyurethane glue? Seems like there are types that foam and expand a substantial amount and others that just slightly foam and curious if they are all the same type?
lloyd Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Biker,All the ones I'm familiar with (being a woodworker as a hobby) are polyurethane water-cure materials. They all foam to one degree or another. I don't know of any 'foaming' types that are not polyurethanes. Polyisocyanurate also foams, but only under application of heat, not moisture. Lloyd
Richtee Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 I don't think I saw an actual answer to Lloyd's question about the glue. So "poly glue" is not a PVA (Polyvinyl acetate) type, like wood glue, but a polyurethane glue? I believe the original/standard Gorilla Glue is this type that foams while curing/drying? Are all foaming glues a polyurethane glue? Seems like there are types that foam and expand a substantial amount and others that just slightly foam and curious if they are all the same type? I used the “Gorilla” brand. When you mix in the perc/other stuff it seems to inhibit the foaming tendencies some. All I can say is get a small bottle and try it out. It’s cheap And wear gloves!
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