AzoMittle Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Name of composition: BP PrimeCreator: PeretThe Composition:40...Potassium Nitrate (Milled)40...Silicon (Not Milled)20...Black Powder (Milled)Dextrin as needed Or, given directly: 55...Potassium Nitrate40...Silicon03...Charcoal02...SulfurDextrin as neededPrecedure/Preparation: It doesn't need milling but the ingredients should be fine powders. I pre-mill all my nitrate and perc oxidizers to flour before I use them for anything, so my version of the prime above uses 20% ball milled BP, 40% ball milled KNO3 and 40% silicon out of the bag. I never tried making a green mix prime with crystalline KNO3. However, theoretically all you need is for the prime to take fire instantly from the burst - it doesn't have to burn very fast, and indeed it won't with all that silicon. I had 100% success with the silicon prime this year, reliably lighting the difficult barium nitrate stars that blew blind in the past, though looking at the videos, those stars don't actually start to burn until they're some distance from the center of the break. --- http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/6506-conventional-prime/?do=findComment&comment=84656
BengalFlair Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 I think Peret is not the creator of this prime.The actual prime composition is in "PYROTECHNICS" by Alexander P. Hardt which is as follows-Potassium nitrate--38Silicon--38Meal D--19dextrin--5 Peret just modified it a bit. 1
dagabu Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 I think Peret is not the creator of this prime.The actual prime composition is in "PYROTECHNICS" by Alexander P. Hardt which is as follows-Potassium nitrate--38Silicon--38Meal D--19dextrin--5 Peret just modified it a bit. Then it becomes his version. I don't think Hardt came up with the prime either but a variant.
Mumbles Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 Nope, neither Hardt nor Peret came up with this composition. 38:38:19:5 is the exact same as 40:40:20 +5 dextrin to within a tenth of a percent for what it's worth, no modification. I got this formula 10 years ago from someone who's had it since probably the mid 80's to early 90's, and he certainly wasn't the innovator either. I don't know who actually created it, but I had it labeled as "English hot prime". In any case, this is a supremely hot prime. If it doesn't light your composition, I'm not sure anything will.
BengalFlair Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 I do use this prime and agree that practically there is no difference between 38:38:19:5 and 40:40:20 +5 dextrin.But when I got this prime composition as 38:38:19:5, I didn’t have any digital balance and only had some 100, 50, 20,10 and 5 gram weights. So I MODIFIED the composition by rounding up the numerical values as 40:40:20 +5 dextrin to weigh it easily.I think Peret might think so ...as...Wise men think alike 1
dangerousamateur Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 How does this compare to the much more expensive perchlorate primes? Does silicone make any trouble when wetted with nitrate?
DonCopal Posted December 7, 2016 Posted December 7, 2016 Does the prime require an additional outer prime to ignite reliably?
Arthur Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 I've seen this prime quoted as BP +5% Si, unmilled BP ingredients +5% Si and lots of other variants. It really only depends on the fact that burned Silicon is Silica which is a liquid as created so as the liquid cools to solid slag it gives out a lot of heat to the material in contact (the star) rather than spreading hot gas into the atmosphere.
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