coloured stars without chlorine doner

[insutama]

Is it possible to make coloured stars without a chlorine doner such as parlon or pvc i have most the chemicals i need now except im still waiting for my parlon, red gum, and pvc to arrive so is there any star formula i can play around with that does not require these ?

[PIL]

You can make red stars with strontium nitrate, potassium perchlorate, magnesium and dextrin. Yellow is quite easy， a potassium nitrate magnesium comp with sodium bicarbonate and dextrin will do the job. Green is quite challenging though. But you can still get an apple green color without organic chlorine donor.

Barium nitrate 10

Potassium perchlorate 4

Magnesium 5

Dextrin or other binder 2-3

Blue is impossible unless you have ammonium perchlorate

Edited July 30, 2015 by PIL

[insutama]

awsome thanks and you say blue is impossible without a chlorine donor or just without AP in general ?

[insutama]

also i just have strontium carbonate at the moment my strontium nitrate is in the same package as the parlon lol would this work still for red ?

[PIL]

If you don't have an organic chlorine donor, the blue comp with AP produces best results. Blue needs a 'strong 'chlorine donor. Parlon and AP is, but potassium perchlorate isn't.

And you can use strontium carbonate for red, but the red seems to be pale .You have to add much magnesium to release the strontium.

[schroedinger]

For green you can also go with mg/bariusulfate 1:1. But how long can a parcel take? 1 week, just make up some streamers

[Sparx88]

http://pyrodata.com/composition/stars/color-metallic?tid[]=110&title=&field_video_video_url=All&description=All&description_1=All

 

 

 

[JOPETES]

for clear azure have to use copper oxychloride as it provides chlorine and is non-hygroscopic, the results are not bad.

[insutama]

when making the veline red star it says to use mgal 200 mesh im just wondering would spherical mgal work or does it have to be flake also would spherical aluminum work as well ?

[PIL]

Spherical aluminum won't work.

Both spherical MgAl and flake will work.

[ivars21]

You can also go into advanced filter and exclude all stars that contains PVC, red gum or parlon: http://pyrodata.com/composition/filter-advanced?tid_2_op=or&advanced_filt[]=44&tid_op=or&tid_1_op=not&advanced_filft_large[]=265&advanced_filft_large[]=87&advanced_filft_large[]=65&tid_5_op=or&tid_4_op=or&tid_3_op=or&title_op=word&title=&description_2_op=%3D&description_2=&field_source_value_1_op=%3D&field_source_value_1=&field_video_video_url=All&field_table_check_value=All&description=All&description_1=All

 

 

Edited July 30, 2015 by ivars21

[insutama]

Perfect okay thanks guys

[Mumbles]

Spherical or flake MgAl don't exist. It's all granular.

[insutama]

Oh really intresting if you ball milled mgal wouldn't it make it flake ?

[Mumbles]

Not the 50/50 alloy we use. It's quite brittle and would just fragment. I guess I shouldn't say that atomized Mg/Al doesn't exist, as it might. Everything I've ever used or seen has been granular though.

[Ubehage]

Spherical or flake MgAl don't exist. It's all granular.

Not the 50/50 alloy we use. It's quite brittle and would just fragment. I guess I shouldn't say that atomized Mg/Al doesn't exist, as it might. Everything I've ever used or seen has been granular though.

That's interesting, thank you.

I have always considered my 150# MgAl as flakes, but I just took a closer look and compared it to some Al-flakes. I see the difference now