mohammacl Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 hii'm noob in working with flash powder and i'm gonna buy some chemicals to make it soon !but i'm confused in choosing best and cheap aluminum that's more efficient in Flash !So according to information in Aluminum shop company here is 3 type of aluminum available : First is :Pure aluminum powderatomized and disordered grading -45 micron (325 mesh)http://www.mahour-pm.com/web/images/aluminium-khales.jpg second is :pure aluminum powderpassed flaking process (flake but not bright one !) -30 to -45 micron D80 (i don't know what this one is but i think it means 80% of powder between this mesh)http://www.mahour-pm.com/main/web/upload/aluminium-aklil-flick.jpg third is :alloyed aluminum all like first one ! but ? it's alloyedhttp://www.mahour-pm.com/web/images/powder-aluminum-aliyaj.jpg
Ubehage Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Being so noobish in flash, I recommend you forget the idea and start reading some more on the subject.Flash is extremely dangerous, if you don't know what you are doing.That being said, to answer your question: Fine powder is better. Edited July 6, 2015 by Ubehage
Wiley Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 You're a newb? Stop messing with flash. Build yourself a ball mill, make some BP and charcoal stars, and use those components to make some nice shells. When you gain more experience and understand what you're dealing with in more depth, flash can provide effects that nothing else can. I myself build a lot of multibreaks, which use quite a lot of the nasty stuff. I'm not fond of working with it at all, but it's an important component in the types of shells I'm working on. Take a look at the videos in my thread, Wiley's Shells, or any of braddsn's videos. Both of us are fairly new to this too, but that doesn't mean you can't make something really cool that will appeal to many people. Just keep reading on the forums, and stay safe. 1
schroedinger Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Just to give you a hint. Two of them are not suited. The third maybe. But read the two comments above me, your question shows 100% that you don't have enough experience to make them. 1
ddewees Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Get this stuff... http://www.pyrochemsource.com/images/1410402510504603720402.jpeg http://www.pyrochemsource.com/Indian-Black-Aluminum-INDIAN-BLACK.htm This stuff works great too... http://www.starmolecule.com/wp-content/uploads/StarMoleculeAluminumPowder1Bottles-500x500.png http://www.starmolecule.com/buy-aluminum-powder/dark-jagged-flake-aluminum-powder/1lb-dark-aluminum-powder/
SideGlance Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 We can't stop you from making salutes but you better educate yourself or you will end up blown to pieces. Do what I did and spend hours reading
mohammacl Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 hey guys ! i am just new in working with flashes but i have read almost all articles and guides about them ! i know all ratios , all kind of flash powders , safety hints in working with oxidizers but now i am gonna chose best aluminum powder to start with Al based Flash powders ! and this new company that i find is selling very good Al powders in low cost ! (about 6$ per lb ) and another thing ! i wont dark pyro ! i want pure aluminum powder ! and just tell me which of this three grade is best !
Wiley Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) I'll make it really easy. Don't worry about what type of aluminum is best. The mere fact that you do not know which powder is used to make the simplest and most dangerous mixture in pyro conveys that you do not know enough about the rest of pyro to understand what you are venturing into. If you just want to make boomers, you're not interested in pyro, which is what we do here. One aluminum I can suggest is this stuff: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALUMINUM-metal-POWDER-1-lb-Pound-99-9-Lab-Chemical-425-mesh-35-thermite-/201095326841?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed2372c79 Use it to make cut N1 glitter stars: N1 Gold Glitter formulaPotassium nitrate 0.51Sulfur 0.15 Charcoal, airfloat 0.10Aluminum, atomized, 325 mesh 0.08Sodium bicarbonate 0.12Dextrin 0.04 They are very pretty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFkOs3E8iAw Edited July 7, 2015 by Wiley 1
mohammacl Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 thanks all for no helping me ! i found my answer in another site and the second is best cause its flake !
insutama Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Well it sounds like your better off without us then why bother wasting anymore of our time one day you will realize that wiley was trying to help you but by then it will be too late
ddewees Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 thanks all for no helping me ! i found my answer in another site and the second is best cause its flake !Lol... 2
DaMounty Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 This whole thread gives me the creeps. Lot's a superman syndrome. DaM 1
gregh Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Was going to put something rude, but thought better of it. I will let Dan be in charge of one-liners and comedy. Edited July 8, 2015 by gregh 1
ddewees Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Was going to put something rude, but thought better of it. I will let Dan be in charge of one-liners and comedy. coward...
OblivionFall Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Just a heads up, the creator of this thread cannot get KCLO4 or KCLO4 so he said that he was going to use KMnO4... I told him my success with nitrate and that he should use it. Hopefully you guys can explain to him the dangers of working with Potassium Permanganate. Especially since he doesn't know a lot about flash.
Wiley Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 mohammacl, you're looking to get yourself killed with that permanganate. The fact that you're only looking to make flash without any apparent knowledge of anything pyrotechnic was bad enough, but if you try using a highly unstable oxidizer like that, I can just about guarantee that you are going to have an accident. With a high-powered composition like this, that accident is very likely to be lethal. 1
OblivionFall Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Yeah I agree with Wiley, you are severely uninformed. Seriously do some more research. Yes flake is better but micron size is important too.
MrB Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) he said that he was going to use KMnO4... *sighs, leans head into palms, then slowly sits back up, gets out of his chair, and walks away. From the distance you can hear loud shouting about fucking morons, and then a door slams. And then, nothing.* -Mr B just walked away. Upset. What ever you guys did to make him that upset... Don't do it again. It's probably unsafe.- B! Edited July 12, 2015 by MrB 4
Arthur Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Cue; Theme from M*A*S*H with words. Edited July 12, 2015 by Arthur
wizard7611 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) I'm a starter, and I've managed to make some 1/3 sticks of dynamite safely outside. Those were pretty loud! I used Ekart German Dark Aluminum Powder by the way. Edited July 12, 2015 by wizard7611
OblivionFall Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) *sighs, leans head into palms, then slowly sits back up, gets out of his chair, and walks away. From the distance you can hear loud shouting about fucking morons, and then a door slams. And then, nothing.* -Mr B just walked away. Upset. What ever you guys did to make him that upset... Don't do it again. It's probably unsafe.- B!A visual representation of what MrB just said http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/e3/46/e346a5_1464490.jpg Edited July 12, 2015 by OblivionFall 1
OblivionFall Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I'm a starter, and I've managed to make some 1/3 sticks of dynamite safely outside. Those were pretty loud! I used Ekart German Dark Aluminum Powder by the way. That's cool! Keep in mind that this thread is aimed towards trying to convince mohammed not to use flash until he learns how to safely use it. If you want to talk about flash you're better of PM'ing people about it. Nobody can disagree that salutes are great fun but they don't have much of a place in pyro and are considerably dangerous.
Sparx88 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Oh boy! Yah thats some real good advice I'd like to stand behind! PFFF If you did'nt make TNT, you made a firecracker, and very illegal ones. If what you built is your idea of TNT, you are sadly mistaken. Why oh why do all the upstarts want to play where even the experienced pyros don't like to be? Get you or make you a black powder salute cannon and be done with it. I fire mine every weekend.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGdOwkOQdIc Edited July 12, 2015 by Sparx88
Mumbles Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I'm locking this. I probably should have a while ago. Much to my surprise, it has actually gotten less intelligent as it progresses. 3
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