MrBuzzard Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 From the help of mumbles i plan on making a 500 gram dry smoke composition.
Polumna Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 hi dudes I have got one question: Is it bad if a have got some sulfur or other traces in my KNo3???Since i just can get my KNO3 from gunpowder( filtered).The KNO3 has got some dirt in it (around 1%) that is some sulfur and charcoal.I have got 5g KNO3!!! ( that is very much)Not that the Smokemix would burn if i mix the KNO3 with the molten sugarBut i get around 500g gunpowder( just meal with very crappy charcoal( 1mm in size) That would be enough KNO3 I thinkI would buy me some but im afraid of the police if im order the KNO3 from I-net Polumna
fight fire with fire Posted March 26, 2007 Author Posted March 26, 2007 It shouldn't matter to much (i have traces of sugar in my kno3!) i found a bug in my smoke bomb. It wont effect it to much it aint a piece of art is it!
Umphrey Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 I have got one question: Is it bad if a have got some sulfur or other traces in my KNo3???Since i just can get my KNO3 from gunpowder( filtered). It depends on what you're using it for. Obviously do not use it in any composition where sulfur is contraindicated. That would be enough KNO3 I thinkI would buy me some but im afraid of the police if im order the KNO3 from I-netWhile it would vary with where you live, there is no reason a small quantity of potassium nitrate would cause any problems or be reason for concern. I mean, you're not buying a u-haul truck full of it, are ya?Just recently I acquired some eight 40 pound sacks, this didn't raise any suspicion. I have got 5g KNO3!!! (that is very much) In what universe do you live that 5gram of potassium nitrate is anything but a miniscule amount? Did you mean 5kg?
mormanman Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 can you ball meal a smoke bomb like the smoke bomb you cook or would it defeat the purpose of cooking it and would it make your ball meal sticky inside or what has anyone tried this
Umphrey Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 can you ball meal a smoke bomb like the smoke bomb you cook or would it defeat the purpose of cooking it and would it make your ball meal sticky inside or what has anyone tried this.Um, I am assuming by "smoke bomb" you mean a sugar smoke composition. By your above description the first thing that comes to mind is someone jamming a finished smoke device inside a ball mill--but that would be insane. Yes, It is perfectly fine to mill various sugar smoke mixes--just so long as there is no contraindication of the chemicals being balled milled. This is of course done instead of or prior to the melting. If the materials are dry powders they will not make your ball mill sticky, if they did you can simply wash out your mill.
KPatel Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I'm new here, so hello.introductions aside, I'm curious as to whether copper sulphate/sulfate will cause the smoke to turn blue. If not, is there any way I can color the smoke with easily accesible chemicals?
mormanman Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I'm new here, so hello.introductions aside, I'm curious as to whether copper sulphate/sulfate will cause the smoke to turn blue. If not, is there any way I can color the smoke with easily accesible chemicals? Ok I understand your new here and stuff but go to the newbie thread and look there or my favorite places on comps and tutorial pyrowiki.com and the greenman.uk.me. (its easier just to google the greenman I think). But they should have what your looking for and just so you know you are welcome here just don't ask to make bombs. And sorry if I sound like a jerk I've been where you are now (I think).
Frozentech Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I'm new here, so hello.introductions aside, I'm curious as to whether copper sulphate/sulfate will cause the smoke to turn blue. If not, is there any way I can color the smoke with easily accesible chemicals?Nope. Vivid colored smokes are actually not true "smoke". Rather, they are vaporized color dyes. If the mix burns too hot, the dyes burn - no bright colors. One dye used in blue is Phthalocyanine Blue, another is Indigo. Chlorate/Lactose is the usual oxidizer and fuel used, for it's lower decomposition temperatures.
KPatel Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I see that there's a generic reply for newbies that has been agreed by the mods . I'm not really here to make a bomb, I just assumed they were called smoke bombs. But thanks Frozentech for your reply. I'll make my way over to the newbie category. Thanks again.
psyco_1322 Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 When ever i make some bombs I mix up several hundred grams at ta times and melt it. Then I pour it into stainless steel cups about 1.5x1.5" i got from walmart. It ends up being about 75g smoke bombs. And if you take the highly hygroscopic smoke bombs you just made and dip it a couple of time in melted wax it will waterproof it so it dont turn into muck in a few hours/days.
pudidotdk Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 You can also dip it in nitrocellulose laquer to decrease risk of ignition. Melted wax+stove = hot.However it's more expensive and will dissolve the coating on the fuse if you're using visco.
psyco_1322 Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 Ive dipped lots in wax. Dont heat it untill it boils and dip it into boiling wax! If it boils shut it off and let it cool a little then dip. 3-4 coatings makes a good complete seal. But some acetone has water in it, or could have. And the evaping of it can cuse condinsation to form.
kingvitamin Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Have you ever melted it with some filler to make it so that it can be broken up like pressed BP? Granulated KnSu/something could possibly work as a weak lift. Then again charcoal and sulfur should be really easy to find. I have made a lift poweder out of it. It was a 60/40 mix and added a small amount of iron oxide. It worked okay/
Big B Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 14kg smokebomb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5A8FNgmt8k
psyco_1322 Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Smoke mix lift? Work better than homemade, non-corned bp? 4th and I run out of lift. My homemades ot to good for shells. Its fast but dont pack any power. I need and press.
aquaman Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 With smoke dyes. They can be hard to find and can be expensive. Skylighter is the only place that I can think of right now that sells a yellow "smoke mix". Check Here for some color smoke formulas. Just have fun finding the dyes.
mormanman Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 Hey guys um I found this out by mistake but its pretty cool (I don't know if it can hurt you) but anyway to make black or heavy gray smoke cut or rip some phone book pages and put them with your smoke powder. Its pretty cool. I found this out b/c I wanted to burn a hole in a phone book so I put smoke powder in the book along the spine and lit the powder and shut the book. Black smoke came out and it scared me b/c I didn't know what was going on.
pyrogeorge Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 http://www.metacafe.com/watch/704958/ultim...red_smoke_bomb/ what is the organic dye?who can be used?to undestand where to buy because i leave in Greece
aquaman Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 That gave me an idea. Look Here. Would anybody know if this could be used and/or does any body have it that could try it real quick. It cost $2.30 for 1 1/8 oz. so 1 Lb is like $32. Edit: never mind I searched google and some kid in toste tried the RIT dye and it didn't work. I had a feeling it wouldn't work so I believe him. Even though he was the only one that I believe that tried it. So he might have messed up the formula. If someone has it, can you give it a whirl. OK yeah I can't find anything. Everything that I find is for like industrial uses or the army. They don't even put prices down.
FrankRizzo Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 I seem to recall reading that blue chalk line refills from Irwin contain a decent percentage of ultramarine blue which can be volatilized in a smoke formulation. I've never tried it. EDIT: Nevermind, the ultramarine is useless as a smoke dye but has uses for creating storage-stable yellow stars containing magnesium and ammonium perchlorate.
pyrogeorge Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 That gave me an idea. Look Here. Would anybody know if this could be used and/or does any body have it that could try it real quick. It cost $2.30 for 1 1/8 oz. so 1 Lb is like $32. Edit: never mind I searched google and some kid in toste tried the RIT dye and it didn't work. I had a feeling it wouldn't work so I believe him. Even though he was the only one that I believe that tried it. So he might have messed up the formula. If someone has it, can you give it a whirl. OK yeah I can't find anything. Everything that I find is for like industrial uses or the army. They don't even put prices down. RIT dye can make o colored smoke?
aquaman Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 I don't know that is why i asked if anybody has RIT dye to give it a try. I doubt that it will work but it wouldn't hurt to try.
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