FlaMtnBkr Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Haven't heard of anyone trying that but have heard of people hand lighting with a road flare and lighting bare quick match. Not for every shell but one that had a problem. Would be near instant ignition and quite a rush. I've done it on some 3" shells that had the visco fall out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I have not fired shells using a pig or the Chinese method of tossing a little star into a mortar. I have handlit plenty of shells by lighting bare quickmatch with a torch or fusee, with and without a small length exposed BM for delay. The biggest shell I have handlit was an 8" that did not fire from the e-match. It has the usual 2-3" of exposed black match to give a short delay so the shooter can turn around. Normally we only handlight shells 6" and smaller to reflect NFPA 1123 guidelines. It is a rush, which I can take or leave. I do not mind shooting handlit shows, but I prefer electronic firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzoMittle Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) I have not fired shells using a pig or the Chinese method of tossing a little star into a mortar. I have handlit plenty of shells by lighting bare quickmatch with a torch or fusee, with and without a small length exposed BM for delay. The biggest shell I have handlit was an 8" that did not fire from the e-match. It has the usual 2-3" of exposed black match to give a short delay so the shooter can turn around. Normally we only handlight shells 6" and smaller to reflect NFPA 1123 guidelines. It is a rush, which I can take or leave. I do not mind shooting handlit shows, but I prefer electronic firing. Wait we have an NFPA document for firing shows? Since when?! I wish I had known that 6 months to a year ago. I have recently become intimately acquainted with NFPA 13, 13R, and 25. While they are long, (sometimes) unclear, and overall convoluted I feel that NFPA has very well designed guidelines. I will read NFPA 1123 tonight and would strongly encourage others to do the same; also, keep in mind that NFPA is the bare minimum, when you can afford to do more you should, cities and counties can enforce additional policies. Choose your battles with inspectors carefully. edit1: Are there any other relevant code standards? Personally I don't care about commercial displays but others might. edit3: Here's what I have found so far (this is not a complete list, please do your own research):NFPA 1122 Code for Model RocketryNFPA 1123 Code for Fireworks DisplayNFPA 1124 Code for the Manufacture, Transportation, Storage, and Retail Sales of Fireworks and Pyrotechnic ArticlesNFPA 1125 Code for the Manufacture of Model Rocket and High Power Rocket MotorsNFPA 1126 Standard for the Use of Pyrotechnics Before a Proximate AudienceNFPA 1127 Code for High Power Rocketry ----------- On-topic: Going back I see that Shimizu also mentions the Chinese method of using a star. His is modified slightly, a fuse is run over the top of the open end of the mortar and a star is placed in the middle sort of like a tight rope walker. edit2: Handlighting an 8" shell, that's beautiful Nater, scary as hell but beautiful. Next time you should go to 16" so you can hug the mortar while you light it Edited September 22, 2014 by AzoMittle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I don't think I would hand light a larger shell without a longer fuse again. I only did it when we were clearing mortars after a firing system failure, which is a provision in the guidelines. Typically per 1123 and the PGI DOC, 6" is the limit for hand lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I've heard a few stories from old timers of hand lighting large (8-12") shells during shows, and coming down with concussion-like symptoms. Hand lighting shells can be a rush, but having hand lit shells flower pot or muzzle break can be a little too intense for some. For my own stuff, I'd just assume go electric so I can stand back and enjoy my hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroedinger Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Well also to add, if you hand light a shell you are most times far away if you return 100 meters, but most shells look far better viewed from a distance much bigger then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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